quick note on any individual basis having ASI or not does not determine Desi identity. however for an ethnicity or cultural group their South Asianess is determined probably by their geographic situation (are they on the periphery or heartland), by the ASI quantum (10% cutoff) and self-identification as Desis. it would be interesting to remap the “Indosphere”; that’s actually a good posting.
We know about the Anglosphere but what about the Indosphere? At the moment Wikipedia brings up something on Tibeto-Burman’s linguistic range but there is a piece on “Greater India”. It would be interesting to note that Indic culture spread as far wide to Atashgah in Azerbaijan and some symbols persisted to Ulan Baatar, Mongolia. Continue reading →
Bliss Comment.“If the French hadn’t guillotined their Monarch and kept their Dynasty to this day, in a constitutional format, they would have probably been the most glamorous and elegant nation in the world.” Seems like you are overly impressed by pomp and ceremony. Maybe the Russians should also have kept their hereditary Czars, Indians should revive the Maharajahs, Pakistan should reinstall the Mughal Dynasty, the Americans should repent for revolting against your beloved British Monarchy, and so on. The world would have been so much more “glamorous and elegant”. The fundamental problem with monarchies, with the caste system, with the class system etc is the same: talent is not always inherited. Hereditary hierarchies are doomed to fail. Meritocracies will always trump hereditary systems in the long run.
Its interesting in Britain the only hereditary MPs are Tony Benn and his son Hilary. In Britain usually the most talented and accomplished politicians (ergo those most capable of starting a political dynasty) are pensioned off with an aristocratic title but Tony Benn had to renounce his title to contest in Parliament. Continue reading →
In the comments below there was a reference to the fact that most Bollywood actresses have a certain look. In particular, the look of someone like Katrina Kaif. The “dark skinned” actresses such as Bipasha Basu aren’t even dark skinned by Indian standards (a major caveat here is that make-up can change skin tone, so Basu might be much swarthier without make-up than with). The Persian or Mediterranean appearance of many Indian actresses is always noted by outsiders. In contrast, someone like British Indian actress Parminder Nagra (who is of Jatt background from what I have heard for what it’s worth) looks indubitably Indian.
Razib’s has a good post on the *pointlessness* of ancestry. Not exactly but anyway I’m going to mention how important ancestry is. The most important element in my life is striving for a Balance. That means being aware of my heritage but not being defined by it; I have a familial legacy I’m proud of but I also look to enhance and grow it wherever I can. Anyway my point being; breeding, pedigree and ancestry are important but never ever should be held as tools of discrimination instead everyone should be encouraged to be proud of their origins, race and ancestry whatever it may be. I don’t believe in false egalitarianism I think natural hierarchies invariably develops in a variety of way and our human conscience must serve to ameliorate and heal them rather than repress them. For instance I don’t think Caste should be abolished but instead reformed. I’m a reformist never a revolutionary; therefore I like to tread on the line but never cross it. Its interesting that this post is inspired by the Monarchy whereas Razibs was triggered by Genetics but its much about the same topic though different variants. Continue reading →
I made a comment below poking fun at the brown tendency to insinuate one’s own affinity with “superior” groups. Zach alluded to this issue by expressing concern that people will take pride in their “Ancestral North Indian” quantum. He also admitted (as thabet confirmed) that Pakistanis are just as conscious of color and caste/class as Hindu Indians. It’s a brown thang. Even people who are Westernized and progressive will make allusions to affinities which strike me as strongly suspicious indicators of a colonized mentality. North Indian Dalits are reputedly not totally comfortable being bracketed with South Indian Dalits, and a biography of B. R. Ambedkar indicated to me even he wasn’t totally comfortable with the proposition that Dalits were non-Aryan indigenes, as opposed to some fallen Aryan group (as is common in their mythos).
The Malayan tribe are a Scheduled Tribe who live in Idukki District of Kerala, India. Their name derives from the Tamil word for Mountain.In the district , they are found in places like the Edamalayar in Kuttampuzha panchayat , Adimali block panchayat . Quite a handful of Malayan tribes are also found in Ernakulam district which is considered to be the official home of these Malayan tribes…Following the tradition of most of the tribal communities of Indian subcontinent, these Malayan tribes too have adapted to various jobs like bamboo carving, fishing. Gathering of the products from the dense forest areas is also a lucrative occupation of most of the Malayan tribes of Kerala. Instances are also found where these Malayan tribes have rented their cultivating lands and also get involve as manual laborers in the fields. Today, these Malayan tribes have taken active participation in all educational as well as cultural fests.