This is shirk
Rangoli ho to KGP jaise ho warna na ho https://www.google.co.in/search?q=kgp+rangoli&hl=en&safe=active&tbo=d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IG6kUOPtOserrAeEjIGoBA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAA&biw=1152&bih=628
Just curious do you have a (past) connection with IIT KGP?
Yes, I do.
Somehow I can’t imagine you saying “y’all”
I thought it was another New Year happening just now too
It is, for Gujjus.
Are you referring to the Islamic New Year (started today too)? If so, I am sure you know that its one new year that does NOT start with celebration but with lamentation..the first month being Muharam.
There is a drive by the Wahabis to knock down the Shia-inspired lamentation (the penumbra of which extended well beyond the shias and included a lot of Sunnis in its shadow in central Asia and South Asia) and it is likely that we will see the appearance of some sort of “Islamic new year” cards and greetings in places like Saudi Arabia and Indonesia/Malaysia (where Shias have not had a presence and the Sunnis are not tuned in to the lamentation of Karbala at all). The greetings will be necessarily austere and anti-partying at first, in keeping with Wahabi sensibilities, but its likely that matters will escape at some point and “Happy New Year” will become part of Muharam in some places.
Pakistan will be interesting to watch in this regard. Traditionally, we have not celebrated it as a happy occasion. Shia mourning sort of takes over the public space with TV channels doing special programs and muting the song and dance for ten days. But the Saudi-inspired LEJ/ASS (anjuman sipah sahaba, now officially Ahle Sunnat wal jamaat or ASWJ) terrorists are fanatically anti-shia and one their projects is to “take back Muharam”. of course they themselves are not into “Happy New Year” or Happy Anything, but once they push back the Shias and the mourning for Hussain is no longer universal, then “Happy New Year” will sneak in.
I am curious to know what others think about this? likely? unlikely? impossible?
I think you have too much free time and should either get a second job, improve a relationship with a loved one or get in contact with a publisher.
Because damn, can you write some speculative fiction Omar.
It’s a neo-conservative specialty.
HAH. I raise you one google session and await your response:
see http://www.google.com/search?q=islamic+new+year+greetings&hl=en&tbo=u&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS474US474&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=simlUL_oJ8a22gWUnYDgBQ&ved=0CD4QsAQ&biw=1920&bih=912 and http://www.salamcards.com/newyear.shtml and http://www.khaleejtimes.com/kt-article-display-1.asp?xfile=data/government/2012/November/government_November43.xml§ion=government and http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/381436/islamic-new-year-celebration-today#.UKUqJuSCn4Y Can google more if u wish
DO NOT underestimate the power of modernity. Trends are trends because they connect with felt needs..and felt needs, given same biology and similar social arrangements, are not that different.
Its gonna happen. Question is, what shape will it take in Pakisan and when?
There`s a limit to paranoia and how far down the rabbit hole of speculative fiction people can be taken.
As a Muslim fan of the Expanded Universe of Star Wars, and the fact that some Brits put down their religion as Jedi, I have seen how non-material worlds can expand as far as the energies of their respective fanbase`s material circumstances let`s them run.
Democracy, the vote and serious material requirements of society at large can quickly overcome the sectarian delusions of many.
I can’t explain Indonesia and Malaysia, but the Monarchic rulers of the petrol pumps on the Persian Gulf are not constrained by budgetary rules and thus allowed to run wild with their sectarian hatred.
Institutionalised sectarian hatred is a visible scourge that gouges away patience for it and increases the desire to snuff it out.
Modernity may be a tricky thing, but one joy and comfort it brings is the ability to creatively and strategically confront incipient fascism.
Teh Happy Diwali to you too ji
Guys at BP (and Omar)….Hum apna aap ko kitna dara kar zaleel saktay hain?
Paranoia is fun to wallow in, but the real world beckons.
And the real world has more people just trying to get things economically together than mad bombers and rioters.
I presume you are located in the West (US/UK/N-EU) and not in Tel Aviv, Cairo, Aleppo and Beirut (I am speculating since I find your detachment puzzling). In S-EU, major riots have recently happened in Spain and Greece. In India riots in UP, Assam and Hyderabad are ongoing this week. Riots in Argentina as well.
None of the above incidents really happened because they are outside the US/UK/N-EU zone. Even the people in these places are not real people. The bombs and missiles and some 20K killed in Syria and 20 killed in Israel/Gaza today, and half a million people displaced in Assam and hundreds of Rohingyas drowning in Bay of Bengal are all products of paranoia at BP. If some people are suffering from paranoia it is certainly comforting to know that others are enjoying their golden moments of denial.
Your arguments might have been interesting if they had any bearing on what is ACTUALLY HAPPENING in Pakistan.
It does seem to me there is no limit to paranoia and delusional thinking in Pakistan. How else do you explain the way right wing nuts carried on about the whole Malala episode. It seems every time you think this is rock-bottom, whole new valleys appears.
Dear TLW (btw, what does TLW signify?),
I am not clear what the comments are about by now, but if you are referring to my prediction that in many Muslim communities it will become increasingly common to see “new year cards” on 1st Muharam, then i stand by my prediction.
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