How the English should provide “soft power reparations” to India

Watch 7:18 to 46:45 and again from 59:30 to the end.

Main takeaways are that the English should provide soft power reparations to India:

  1. England should build memorials to the brave Indian Army heroes who won WWI and WWII for the Allies and the world. The world has benefited enormously from Indian heroism; if not for India the Axis would likely have won WWI and WWII.
  2. England should “NOT” provide financial reparations to India nor feel guilty towards India; nor should Indians feel any resentment to English people today.
  3. England needs to institutionalize and support Swadeshi Indology including collaborating with India to:
    1. refute the Aryan invasion theory and unscientific hypothesis of “Dravidians”.
    2. collaborate with India to resist post modernism
    3. collaborate with Sanathana Dharmis on neuroscience, mind, meditation, consciousness studies; where neuroscientists provide attribution to the ancient Sanathana Dharma texts that assist them in neuroscience research.
    4. collaborate with India on “Yoga”, stretching, pranayama, health and (I would add intelligence).
  4. Stop collaborating and helping the Indian post modernist left and “Breaking India” forces. They often disguise their intentions with a “human rights”, “freedom of religion”, “freedom of speech” facade. The old Indian left has been politically defeated with the election of Modi. Back the new dispensation.
  5. Collaborate with India on cutting edge collaboration on product development (I would add process innovation.)
    1. Recognize what happened in the past and move forward. Acknowledge the damage English exports of Structuralism, Marxism, Post Modernism have done to India.

The more “soft power reparations” England provides to India, the more England will benefit. England will proportionately benefit more than India will from providing “soft power reparations” to India. Indians don’t believe in win, lose. Swadeshi philosophy believes in win win.

Rajiv Malhotra disagrees with Sashi Tharoor on the effect of UK colonization of India, England apologizing and paying financial reparations to India.

Rajiv Malhotra summarizes part of what decolonizing academia means:

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21 Replies to “How the English should provide “soft power reparations” to India”

  1. Shashi Tharoor only suggests symbolic reparations (one pound an year).
    Sorry never heard of Rajiv Malhotra before.

    I believe Aryans invaded India/Pakistan. May be in more than one wave. I do not see native Aryans in present day India. Why British should involve in this topic now? India should settle the truth based on historical facts. It has access to all education and propaganda provided by Western technology. It should get rid of colonial mentality and handle things on its own. India is bigger than the “mother” country and should not expect patronizing from anybody.

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    1. hoipolloi: I believe Aryans invaded India/Pakistan. May be in more than one wave.

      Even left of centre Marxist historians do not endorse that statement above. They say Aryans migrated into India. AIT has been replaced by AMT in the mainstream history a long time ago.

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      1. I have no problem with either expression. AIT or AMT. What is not understandable is Aryans are native to India and emigrated out to other parts of Asia and Europe. Thanks.

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        1. Even though there is ample evidence to prove AIT never occurred, you are hell bent to prove it occurred, so to give you some benefit, I consider the AIT is still debatable, just like existence of GOD is debatable in the current world (even when there are numerous Sadhus who have seen GOD). Now with that premise, the outcome of AIT whether it is or it is not is also debatable- nothing concrete, so how can you then bring AIT to stand and fight against an argument of British looting of India-which is factual and non-debatable ? think about it.

          PS: There are numerous theologies and schools of thoughts on which British people (mainly English) debate and tolerate each other opinions on, but anything that will whitewash their supremacy and history, British people will never accept at any cost- I mean you will not see any British people investing time and money in researching on a school of thought, which will prove colonisation has destroyed the world to a level that many cultures have lost their significance and ‘self respect’ in this world. British will NEVER. So my humble question to you is why are you then on the path of self destroying using some racist theories proposed by white men ? Think about it. Its not about if AIT is correct or incorrect, its about which side you are ON? Think about your ‘self respect’…

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          1. I think there must have been a Indus Valley collapse (ecological, plague etc) and the Aryans conquered that.

            The Aryans haven’t had as much a genetic impact anywhere else; so can’t believe they were genocidaires!

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  2. Anan,
    Is the Dravidian linguistic family a hoax, or do you just believe that Dravidians don’t constitute a distinct race? Does it concern you that some Indians might hold certain aspects of their identity more sacred than the unity of the republic?

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    1. Dravidian languages are separate from Indo-aryan languages and it’s a fact. Insofar as Identities are concerned, they are important and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

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    2. Until Max Mueller I am not aware of any Tamilian literature or spiritual text that implies separation or difference with the rest of the Sanathana Dharma family.

      One of the oldest Tamilian texts and one of my all time favorite books is Tirumular’s Tirumantiram:
      file:///C:/Users/Anand/Downloads/Tirumantiram%20(4).pdf

      Omar, if you read this text, it causes deep spiritual emotion, shivers and goose bumps. Similar to the words of Kabir, the Sufi masters, passages in the Koran, and the Rig Veda. Tirumular and Patanjali were guru brothers and contemporaries. Their shared Guru was Nandi–Shiva’s bull. Tirumantiram is one of the best and most comprehensive summaries of the many different threads within Sanathana Dharma that exist. It extensively covers all aspects of personal life, including procreation. It describes the many types and levels of brain/nervous system (conscious, subconscious, unconscious), mind, though, intuition, feeling and those things beyond any of the above. Some neuroscientists believe that there are 33 sensory inputs (versus the traditional 5) that the brain can process. Tirumantiram helps someone learn how to use them.

      I regard ancient Tamil as one of the oldest and greatest spiritual languages in the world, on par with Sanskrit. Too bad I don’t know Tamil 🙁 Many of the greatest spiritual luminaries of the human race have been Tamilian, including Agastya (Tamilians say Agastyar), Tirumular, Bhoganatar (who many Hindus believe founded Taoism with a Chinese body under the pseudonym “Laozi”) and many, many others:
      https://www.nhp.gov.in/the-18-siddhars_mtl

      I believe that Arya has always been a plethora of different races, cultures, civilization that shared and collaborated on a common open source spiritual architecture. They have been spread out across much of Asia (and some would say Rome, Greece, Eastern Europe) for a very, very long time.

      For more on the unity between ancient Tamilian and ancient Vedic/Sanskrit civilizations, please watch the honored Tamilian scholar Dr. Nagaswamy:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0KMXbtoTcg

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      1. I was only talking about languages. I know there is no Dravidian race, but there is Dravidian language speakers. Cultures and languages are adoptable.

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    3. This is disingenuous. What is at stake here is not ‘the unity of the republic’ but the Constitution and the memory of the freedom struggle.

      There is nothing special about any race or language family. They are all part of humanity. However, events, stories and certain people are special. Because they constitute memory and memory is what makes us who we are.

      I ask you a simple question. Suppose you wake up tomorrow and find that you cant speak Tamil, but only English. Will that really change who you are fundamentally ? On the other hand, if someone totally remove your memories, all the people, achievements and failures you have preserved, is there any chance you will remain who you are, even if you speak the best Tamil ?

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      1. Vikram you are mostly right. This said Sanathana Dharma (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism), Taoism, Zorastrianism (an Arya faith connected to Sanathana Dharma), Judaism and Islam all use the power of sound, also called Naad, music, mantra, song, poetry. Sound is one of many techniques (but by no means the only or most important one) to increase love/devotion, purify the Chitta (subconscious) to improve mental health, increase intuition/intelligence, improve physical health, and temporarily transcend/suspend gross thought to lose oneself beyond the ordinary mind. Each sound and letter in the Sanskrit language has great subtle and specific power. Each sound also corresponds to specific subtle concepts such as Tattvas. I imagine the same might be completely or partly true of Pali, Tamil, Avestan, Ancient Pharsi, Sumerian, Akkadian, ancient Arameic, ancient Hebrew, ancient Egyptian, and other ancient languages . . . although most of these subtle sound powers might be forgotten now.

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      2. That’s why I said Languages are adoptable. I agree with you that memory plays a important role.

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    1. Butul Miah surely you agree with with point 5? Asia is the world’s economic future. Doesn’t England benefit enormously by attaching herself to India’s rising coat-tails? This is win win for England and India.

      Do you disagree with the fact that ancient eastern philosophy is assisting neuroscience and artificial intelligence with revolutionary breakthroughs regarding the brain, nervous system, [Some leading neuroscientists now believe that the brain has 33 senses instead of 5], intuition/intelligence, mental health and physical health? The ancients were extremely wise. Shouldn’t we learn from them, combining their wisdom with the best of modern technology?

      Could you elaborate regarding what specifically you find objectionable about points 3 and 4?

      I think that post modernism and the predecessor philosophies post modernism came out of have been among the leading causes of global poverty and lower global material living standards over the past one and a half centuries. Do you disagree with this? If so, why?

      I would be very curious to hear your perspectives regarding:
      http://www.brownpundits.com/2018/02/25/nuanced-understanding-of-british-colonialism/
      http://www.brownpundits.com/2018/02/03/ancient-arya-culture/
      http://www.brownpundits.com/2018/01/05/does-colonialism-work-metrics-to-evaluate-colonialism/

      Surely you must agree that post modernism has done enormous harm to moderate and minority muslims, which are written about:
      http://www.brownpundits.com/?s=nonmuslims
      You don’t have to read these articles since I suspect you already know about this.

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      1. I have the deepest respect for atheism. Atheists have been among the leading and most respected lights in the east for over 8 thousand years. Many of the East’s greatest spiritual masters have been called atheists. Many of the most profound spiritual texts of the east have been called atheist for 8 thousand or more years.

        Here are some atheist perspectives on eastern collaboration with neuroscience (Sam Harris has arguably been the world’s leading atheist intellectual since the passing of the very wise Hitchens):
        https://samharris.org/podcasts/113-consciousness-and-the-self/
        https://samharris.org/podcasts/111-science-meditation/
        https://samharris.org/podcasts/the-lessons-of-death/
        https://samharris.org/podcasts/is-buddhism-true/
        https://samharris.org/podcasts/the-nature-of-consciousness/

        There are scores of academic research articles by neuroscientists that you can read as well.

        The world’s greatest atheist intellectuals are leading the charge in deconstructing the very dangerous global religion called post modernism. You can use your considerable wisdom to enhance rational thought and atheism in the pursuit of the highest truth, wherever it may lead.

        Welcome to Brown Pundits Butul Miah 🙂

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        1. Atheists aren’t automatically better thinkers. You have to go on a case-by-case basis. However, they have a tendency [if we are talking about “free atheism”; that is, an atheist who has not been forced to disbelieve or believe anything e.g. Chinese state policy] to be more rational. Again, this does not make them sharper thinkers automatically, but you can achieve a remarkable amount with even limited intelligence when you are willing to cut right past all the b-lls–t.

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      2. Collaborate with India on cutting edge collaboration on product development (I would add process innovation.)

        Geographic, cultural, racial and linguistic barriers basically preclude it from happening in any serious fashion. They weren’t even able to bridge the academic gap across Dover, what makes you think they would be so collaborative with a [quite frankly] alien nation on another [sub]continent? Yes, Asia is rising. And that helps them how? This isn’t 1856.

        If what you are arguing is that scientific institutional co-operation between the two nations will increase, so they better get good at it… well, that’s something that’s not unique to India and the UK. So again, why attach so much importance to this one nation? I don’t think you can use “English speaking” as a realistic bridge anymore, since so many other scientific nations use it as the de-facto language anyway.

        All of this besides, the US will remain top dog in this arena for some time yet, when all is said and done. And US-UK links are much stronger than India-UK links, for obvious reasons.

        Do you disagree with the fact that ancient eastern philosophy is assisting neuroscience and artificial intelligence with revolutionary breakthroughs regarding the brain, nervous system

        In any serious non-trivial way, yes. But I’m always open to some surprise. Can you post any credible links regarding such areas? Note: I am NOT referring to Ayanka stating 1,500 years ago, “the winds of time-blood were but a hollow train of vessels; such vessels were filled with golden thread so fine… ambiguous go-eth the night” to meaning → Utilizing an epigenetic approach in a rodent model to investigate how alcohol use primes the brain for cocaine addiction, a field approach.

        I’m talking about specifics.

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        1. Hope to produce a series of articles about this over the next few months. Please give me as much constructive feedback as you can. Thank you Butul Miah.

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  3. Butul Miah, article above has been updated. South Asia has been colonized by:
    -Islamism
    -marxism
    -fabian socialism
    -semiology/structuralism/post modernism
    -subaltern studies (closely tied to post modernism)
    -Edward Said’s Orientalism (closely tied to post modernism)

    It is time to push back against these narratives. This is as much a challenge for the muslim world (including Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Arabia) as it is for South Asia. Sadly the (nominally meta narrative-less) meta narrative and (nominally universalist notion less) universalist notions promoted by post modernism now seems to dominate every part of the world with the slight exception of China and Vietnam–their people understand how dark that road is.

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    1. Edward Said (may he rest in peace) was one of the greatest thinkers of the 20th century. “Orientalism” is a seminal text in post-colonialism. The man was a scholar of Comparative Literature at Columbia. He knew whereof he spoke. I don’t think any of us on this blog have achieved one hundredth of what Said achieved.

      Besides that, he was a Palestinian Christian and a tireless advocate for his people’s human rights. The man deserves the highest place in heaven.

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