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		By: AnAn		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13908</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2018 23:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Violet wrote:
&quot;Look forward to magic ML to help people like us skip the difficulties of non-linear regression and do what we need to do. ?

Definitely look forward to more of your pubs.&quot;

Couldn&#039;t agree more!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Violet wrote:<br />
&#8220;Look forward to magic ML to help people like us skip the difficulties of non-linear regression and do what we need to do. ?</p>
<p>Definitely look forward to more of your pubs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more!</p>
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		By: Violet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2018 22:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13891&quot;&gt;VRL&lt;/a&gt;.

@VRL,

Thanks so much for dropping by!

1. Intuitively one would think that correlation won’t be strong among a large number of x, and if there is a strong correlation you might end up with a new representative variable (which could itself be a function of all sub variables). So, sparse covariance matrix makes sense. Also FE methods use all possible methods for converting stiffness matrix to sparse matrix (by reordering etc) before inversion . Brute force is when all else fails, but makes us deliver some answers in the meantime.?
2. Yeah, non-stationarity could be interesting but then I guess it runs into same problems as non-stationary signal representation methods (specifically I am thinking of an earthquake signal in frequency domain with Fourier transform vs. Non-stationary power spectral density). There are a lot more knobs to turn for non-stationarity parameters (e.g., which extra variable should be an indicator for change in covariance structure)

Anyway, fun stuff and good luck!!
Look forward to magic ML to help people like us skip the difficulties of non-linear regression and do what we need to do. ?

Definitely look forward to more of your pubs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13891">VRL</a>.</p>
<p>@VRL,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for dropping by!</p>
<p>1. Intuitively one would think that correlation won’t be strong among a large number of x, and if there is a strong correlation you might end up with a new representative variable (which could itself be a function of all sub variables). So, sparse covariance matrix makes sense. Also FE methods use all possible methods for converting stiffness matrix to sparse matrix (by reordering etc) before inversion . Brute force is when all else fails, but makes us deliver some answers in the meantime.?<br />
2. Yeah, non-stationarity could be interesting but then I guess it runs into same problems as non-stationary signal representation methods (specifically I am thinking of an earthquake signal in frequency domain with Fourier transform vs. Non-stationary power spectral density). There are a lot more knobs to turn for non-stationarity parameters (e.g., which extra variable should be an indicator for change in covariance structure)</p>
<p>Anyway, fun stuff and good luck!!<br />
Look forward to magic ML to help people like us skip the difficulties of non-linear regression and do what we need to do. ?</p>
<p>Definitely look forward to more of your pubs.</p>
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		By: AnAn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2018 20:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13891&quot;&gt;VRL&lt;/a&gt;.

Vidhi welcome to Brown Pundits! Can you contribute articles?

Most people try to solve problems optimizing for specific equilibria, which causes suboptimal whole of system solutions because it doesn&#039;t account for covariance. But geniuses like you can understand whole complex systems (or systems of systems for geeks) and solve for general equalibria (optimize for many variables simultaneously).

Or just write articles on how AI is changing the world.

Note I am supremely stupid as our dear beloved friend and mentor Kabir correctly said.

On estimations of subsets to make Gaussian Process sparse . . . well yeah; can you at a future point share some ways this is done?

Do people still use O(n^3) ?

You lost me (again being truly at the very bottom end of stupidity) when speaking about custom covariance functions and non-stationary covariance structures. I am badly in need of an IQ boost pill. [Go brain therapy, gene therapy and inserted bio-engineered tissue!]

Must be nice to live with someone as smart as Zachary. Especially since he tries to hard to hide his intelligence by pretending not to be intelligent so as not to make the rest of us jealous! I love and envy Zach&#039;s deep intellectual humility.  ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13891">VRL</a>.</p>
<p>Vidhi welcome to Brown Pundits! Can you contribute articles?</p>
<p>Most people try to solve problems optimizing for specific equilibria, which causes suboptimal whole of system solutions because it doesn&#8217;t account for covariance. But geniuses like you can understand whole complex systems (or systems of systems for geeks) and solve for general equalibria (optimize for many variables simultaneously).</p>
<p>Or just write articles on how AI is changing the world.</p>
<p>Note I am supremely stupid as our dear beloved friend and mentor Kabir correctly said.</p>
<p>On estimations of subsets to make Gaussian Process sparse . . . well yeah; can you at a future point share some ways this is done?</p>
<p>Do people still use O(n^3) ?</p>
<p>You lost me (again being truly at the very bottom end of stupidity) when speaking about custom covariance functions and non-stationary covariance structures. I am badly in need of an IQ boost pill. [Go brain therapy, gene therapy and inserted bio-engineered tissue!]</p>
<p>Must be nice to live with someone as smart as Zachary. Especially since he tries to hard to hide his intelligence by pretending not to be intelligent so as not to make the rest of us jealous! I love and envy Zach&#8217;s deep intellectual humility.  😉</p>
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		By: VRL		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2018 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13829&quot;&gt;Violet&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Violet, 

On 1) there is a lot of work going into making GPs sparse by looking at approximations or subsets of data. I think that is more theoretically interesting than a brute force computational approach on just making the inverse part faster. (I thought the fastest algorithms for inverse were O(n^2.3728639) which is better than O(n^3)  but still not much...)

2) You can create custom covariance functions to capture  any shape or smoothness requirements, as long as they are valid covariance functions (psd). Also, you can have non-stationary covariance structures ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13829">Violet</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Violet, </p>
<p>On 1) there is a lot of work going into making GPs sparse by looking at approximations or subsets of data. I think that is more theoretically interesting than a brute force computational approach on just making the inverse part faster. (I thought the fastest algorithms for inverse were O(n^2.3728639) which is better than O(n^3)  but still not much&#8230;)</p>
<p>2) You can create custom covariance functions to capture  any shape or smoothness requirements, as long as they are valid covariance functions (psd). Also, you can have non-stationary covariance structures &#8230;</p>
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		By: X.T.M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[X.T.M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13829&quot;&gt;Violet&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting - I don’t understand anything :-)
I sent her this comment as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13829">Violet</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting &#8211; I don’t understand anything 🙂<br />
I sent her this comment as well.</p>
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		By: Violet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Violet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13680&quot;&gt;X.T.M&lt;/a&gt;.

Not that you guys should discuss BP comments at home, but couple more things for future reference.

1. Inversion of large matrices is difficult but has many developments in finite element methods for large matrix inversion and storage. With domain decomposition method, this isn’t a major disadvantage for GP.

2. GP advantage of smooth twice-differentiable  functions is also its disadvantage for step functions. Also co-variance can only model first order relationships between any two variables.

But the presentation appears to be for non-specialist audience in surrogate modelling, and these may not have been discussed. Sorry had to geek out somewhere.?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13680">X.T.M</a>.</p>
<p>Not that you guys should discuss BP comments at home, but couple more things for future reference.</p>
<p>1. Inversion of large matrices is difficult but has many developments in finite element methods for large matrix inversion and storage. With domain decomposition method, this isn’t a major disadvantage for GP.</p>
<p>2. GP advantage of smooth twice-differentiable  functions is also its disadvantage for step functions. Also co-variance can only model first order relationships between any two variables.</p>
<p>But the presentation appears to be for non-specialist audience in surrogate modelling, and these may not have been discussed. Sorry had to geek out somewhere.?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2018 12:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13796&quot;&gt;sbarrkum&lt;/a&gt;.

She is Sindhi actually..

Jeay Sindh; the irony is that I&#039;ve always found Karachi to be my favourite city (a spiritual home of sorts) and I somehow ended up marrying a Sindhi.

Her father&#039;s family is from Tande Adam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tando_Adam_Khan) and I can&#039;t remember where her mother&#039;s family is from but they are Sindhi Khuranas. Of course most Sindhi Bhaibands are Punjabi Hindus who migrated South (Kirpilanis who I think might be Brahmins descend from a Kirpal Singh who moved to Sindhi some 200/300 years ago).

Her great grandfather&#039;s family used to host Nehru at their Haveli when he would visit Sindh in British India so they are a historically Congress family. 

Vidhi&#039;s paternal grandmother told her that they were original Afghan Muslims who moved to Sindh and become Hindus; it&#039;s interesting how the Indus Valley is such a strong borderzone between Aryavarta and Iran-Zamin.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13796">sbarrkum</a>.</p>
<p>She is Sindhi actually..</p>
<p>Jeay Sindh; the irony is that I&#8217;ve always found Karachi to be my favourite city (a spiritual home of sorts) and I somehow ended up marrying a Sindhi.</p>
<p>Her father&#8217;s family is from Tande Adam (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tando_Adam_Khan" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tando_Adam_Khan</a>) and I can&#8217;t remember where her mother&#8217;s family is from but they are Sindhi Khuranas. Of course most Sindhi Bhaibands are Punjabi Hindus who migrated South (Kirpilanis who I think might be Brahmins descend from a Kirpal Singh who moved to Sindhi some 200/300 years ago).</p>
<p>Her great grandfather&#8217;s family used to host Nehru at their Haveli when he would visit Sindh in British India so they are a historically Congress family. </p>
<p>Vidhi&#8217;s paternal grandmother told her that they were original Afghan Muslims who moved to Sindh and become Hindus; it&#8217;s interesting how the Indus Valley is such a strong borderzone between Aryavarta and Iran-Zamin.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2018 07:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13766&quot;&gt;X.T.M&lt;/a&gt;.

Chennai, Lalchand?
Had a classmate Lalchand, I think they were Sindhis]]></description>
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<p>Chennai, Lalchand?<br />
Had a classmate Lalchand, I think they were Sindhis</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13684&quot;&gt;hoipolloi&lt;/a&gt;.

true that..]]></description>
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<p>true that..</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2018 16:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/14/the-grand-punditess-of-them-all/#comment-13688&quot;&gt;AnAn&lt;/a&gt;.

My 1 basis point wife; it sounds catchy!!! Don&#039;t know what I did in my past lives to deserve her but the upshot is after the pheras, she&#039;s now stuck with me for the next 7 lives :-)

thanks for your kind words otherwise!]]></description>
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<p>My 1 basis point wife; it sounds catchy!!! Don&#8217;t know what I did in my past lives to deserve her but the upshot is after the pheras, she&#8217;s now stuck with me for the next 7 lives 🙂</p>
<p>thanks for your kind words otherwise!</p>
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