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		By: AnAn		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19700</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2018 00:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19688&quot;&gt;Bharotshontan&lt;/a&gt;.

The pollution in some Indian cities is bad. Not fun doing pranayama in polluted air.

What do you think caused the Kerela floods?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19688">Bharotshontan</a>.</p>
<p>The pollution in some Indian cities is bad. Not fun doing pranayama in polluted air.</p>
<p>What do you think caused the Kerela floods?</p>
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		By: Bharotshontan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2018 17:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any insights on the Kerala floods? 

I have a very pessimistic outlook on the ecological time bomb that the Indian subcontinent is sitting on... all the more worsened (in a spiritual plane) by just how much nature-worship is in-built to the ethos of the land and how nature is the historical leg on which Indian civilization stood/stands. 

Today one is better off doing praanayanama in some ashram in Colorado than in Delhi for sure. Okay one may say Delhi is a major metropolitan city and the comparison should be more to a Hrishikesh... in which case one is likely to suffer from a landslide due to unmitigated and unplanned deforestation and housing going on in mountain/forest areas of the areas where the Vedanta was spouted.

I&#039;m envisioning, a repeat of the disaster that the Sindhu-Saraswati dessification had on the proto-Bharat evolution, except at a much much larger and terrible scale.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any insights on the Kerala floods? </p>
<p>I have a very pessimistic outlook on the ecological time bomb that the Indian subcontinent is sitting on&#8230; all the more worsened (in a spiritual plane) by just how much nature-worship is in-built to the ethos of the land and how nature is the historical leg on which Indian civilization stood/stands. </p>
<p>Today one is better off doing praanayanama in some ashram in Colorado than in Delhi for sure. Okay one may say Delhi is a major metropolitan city and the comparison should be more to a Hrishikesh&#8230; in which case one is likely to suffer from a landslide due to unmitigated and unplanned deforestation and housing going on in mountain/forest areas of the areas where the Vedanta was spouted.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m envisioning, a repeat of the disaster that the Sindhu-Saraswati dessification had on the proto-Bharat evolution, except at a much much larger and terrible scale.</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19547</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 18:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19545&quot;&gt;sbarrkum&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;India has funded/trained terrorism and separatists and to destabilize neighboring countries in the 30-40 years (e.g. the LTTE).&quot;

Hey man, just did it for a while. No hard feelings! If its some solace we too lost army men and a Prime Minister.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19545">sbarrkum</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;India has funded/trained terrorism and separatists and to destabilize neighboring countries in the 30-40 years (e.g. the LTTE).&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey man, just did it for a while. No hard feelings! If its some solace we too lost army men and a Prime Minister.</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 18:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19430&quot;&gt;VijayVan&lt;/a&gt;.

There are reports that Mr President/War hero might be back next election. Also he bizarrely alleged that it was India&#039;s RAW which plotted his downfall. Considering how much &quot;effective&quot; RAW is i wouldn&#039;t bet on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19430">VijayVan</a>.</p>
<p>There are reports that Mr President/War hero might be back next election. Also he bizarrely alleged that it was India&#8217;s RAW which plotted his downfall. Considering how much &#8220;effective&#8221; RAW is i wouldn&#8217;t bet on it.</p>
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		By: sbarrkum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 18:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19406&quot;&gt;VijayVan&lt;/a&gt;.

India has funded/trained terrorism and separatists and to destabilize neighboring countries in the 30-40 years (e.g. the LTTE).

When the China gset accused of directly meddling in internal politics of a country,  I will have a hard look.   Yes, sure the China is maybe getting their moneys worth with the help of local govts.  

It would be quite easy for China to train say Kashmiris or Assamese in terrorist methods.   They have not done that and in that sense more honest than India.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19406">VijayVan</a>.</p>
<p>India has funded/trained terrorism and separatists and to destabilize neighboring countries in the 30-40 years (e.g. the LTTE).</p>
<p>When the China gset accused of directly meddling in internal politics of a country,  I will have a hard look.   Yes, sure the China is maybe getting their moneys worth with the help of local govts.  </p>
<p>It would be quite easy for China to train say Kashmiris or Assamese in terrorist methods.   They have not done that and in that sense more honest than India.</p>
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		By: sbarrkum		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19542</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 18:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19430&quot;&gt;VijayVan&lt;/a&gt;.

VijayVan,

There is a section of the urban elite in Sri Lanka that think the west/europe/IMF can do no wrong.

If you read MSM western media and English media in Sri Lanka, everything that China does is wrong.

The current govt, apparently won the elections funded by the US.  At the beginning current govt bad mouthed the Chinese, said they were cancelling Colombo Port City, stopping the Hambanthota Port and Mattala Airport.

So when this govt went to the US and West for fDI/loans they said nada.  The govt had to bend backwards and ask China, and they got their pound of flesh,

VijayVan,  Hambanthota was offered to India first.  Mattala Airport is apparently has been sold to India.

Something I wrote in 2013
http://sbarrkum.blogspot.com/2013/05/myanmar-china-pipeline-opportunity-for.html]]></description>
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<p>VijayVan,</p>
<p>There is a section of the urban elite in Sri Lanka that think the west/europe/IMF can do no wrong.</p>
<p>If you read MSM western media and English media in Sri Lanka, everything that China does is wrong.</p>
<p>The current govt, apparently won the elections funded by the US.  At the beginning current govt bad mouthed the Chinese, said they were cancelling Colombo Port City, stopping the Hambanthota Port and Mattala Airport.</p>
<p>So when this govt went to the US and West for fDI/loans they said nada.  The govt had to bend backwards and ask China, and they got their pound of flesh,</p>
<p>VijayVan,  Hambanthota was offered to India first.  Mattala Airport is apparently has been sold to India.</p>
<p>Something I wrote in 2013<br />
<a href="http://sbarrkum.blogspot.com/2013/05/myanmar-china-pipeline-opportunity-for.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sbarrkum.blogspot.com/2013/05/myanmar-china-pipeline-opportunity-for.html</a></p>
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		By: AnAn		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19479</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 01:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19430&quot;&gt;VijayVan&lt;/a&gt;.

Siddharth + 108
As befits the Buddha!

China&#039;s economic integration with Sri Lanka, India, the rest of Asia, Africa, Latin America, North America and Europe has been a win, win, win! The rise of China benefits the world.

Love Chinese people and how there are growing Chinese communities living all over the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19430">VijayVan</a>.</p>
<p>Siddharth + 108<br />
As befits the Buddha!</p>
<p>China&#8217;s economic integration with Sri Lanka, India, the rest of Asia, Africa, Latin America, North America and Europe has been a win, win, win! The rise of China benefits the world.</p>
<p>Love Chinese people and how there are growing Chinese communities living all over the world.</p>
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		By: Bharotshontan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2018 00:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19468&quot;&gt;AnAn&lt;/a&gt;.

I just see shakti bondhu. All the rest labels are just power plays either by the &quot;side&quot; that is &quot;down&quot; and/or the &quot;side&quot; that is &quot;up.&quot;

I will essentially whine about imperialism or racism or dogmatism while I&#039;m &quot;down&quot;. That&#039;s my stick to beat the others with while I&#039;m down. When I can and do start projecting power in the push-pull nature of how power works, I will say &quot;Bharat is going to be vishwa/jagat guru&quot;. I will let the other guy figure out or start whining that I&#039;m turning him into my intellectual and spiritual subordinate. At my core I know both myself and also my &quot;enemy&quot; are hypocrites, and neither of us is actually either superior nor inferior to each other, at least not on a &quot;moral&quot; plane. Only superiority or inferiority is in the material world, and that is in the aforementioned field of strength (and here I have control over the future trajectory via my own actions). 

All this is part of His leelakhela. In this there is nuance to literally everything and then nuance to the nuance and absolutely no room for ideological absolutism. The nuance also comes down to not only the object (however illusory) but also the observer and his/her basic bhaavas and the array of their potential roopas. In this us Hindus readily understand the concept of multiple prescriptions depending on the patient. For myself a strong identity of janama jaati might &quot;work&quot; whereas for another a strong belief in karma yoga might work, in achieving the same ends that is... the approaches may counter productive to the opposite end, for they undergo the hypothetical application of said yantra in their minds to find it is counter productive to their constitution... But that doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t working for the original maker/user of the yantra ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19468">AnAn</a>.</p>
<p>I just see shakti bondhu. All the rest labels are just power plays either by the &#8220;side&#8221; that is &#8220;down&#8221; and/or the &#8220;side&#8221; that is &#8220;up.&#8221;</p>
<p>I will essentially whine about imperialism or racism or dogmatism while I&#8217;m &#8220;down&#8221;. That&#8217;s my stick to beat the others with while I&#8217;m down. When I can and do start projecting power in the push-pull nature of how power works, I will say &#8220;Bharat is going to be vishwa/jagat guru&#8221;. I will let the other guy figure out or start whining that I&#8217;m turning him into my intellectual and spiritual subordinate. At my core I know both myself and also my &#8220;enemy&#8221; are hypocrites, and neither of us is actually either superior nor inferior to each other, at least not on a &#8220;moral&#8221; plane. Only superiority or inferiority is in the material world, and that is in the aforementioned field of strength (and here I have control over the future trajectory via my own actions). </p>
<p>All this is part of His leelakhela. In this there is nuance to literally everything and then nuance to the nuance and absolutely no room for ideological absolutism. The nuance also comes down to not only the object (however illusory) but also the observer and his/her basic bhaavas and the array of their potential roopas. In this us Hindus readily understand the concept of multiple prescriptions depending on the patient. For myself a strong identity of janama jaati might &#8220;work&#8221; whereas for another a strong belief in karma yoga might work, in achieving the same ends that is&#8230; the approaches may counter productive to the opposite end, for they undergo the hypothetical application of said yantra in their minds to find it is counter productive to their constitution&#8230; But that doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t working for the original maker/user of the yantra ?</p>
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		By: Siddharth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2018 22:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Siddharth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2018 22:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19430&quot;&gt;VijayVan&lt;/a&gt;.

Sri Lanka&#039;s roads and highways are a sight to behold, they&#039;re of top quality and going a long way towards bringing the various parts of the country together. On questioning the people in various parts, both Tamil and Sinhala, I got the same answer - that the Chinese built infrastructure has made their lives easier and is viewed positively. China to them is synonymous with quality and quick delivery. Indeed, Chinese expats are everywhere to be seen in Colombo, and I can see Chinese investment only increasing in the medium term.

More power to the Lankans, they&#039;ve hitched their wagon to an engine of growth and progress. Indians wish their country could be as efficient and cut-throat, but that&#039;s not to be. Instead it&#039;s so much easier to complain about Chinese authoritarianism or imperialism, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/14/open-thread-9/#comment-19430">VijayVan</a>.</p>
<p>Sri Lanka&#8217;s roads and highways are a sight to behold, they&#8217;re of top quality and going a long way towards bringing the various parts of the country together. On questioning the people in various parts, both Tamil and Sinhala, I got the same answer &#8211; that the Chinese built infrastructure has made their lives easier and is viewed positively. China to them is synonymous with quality and quick delivery. Indeed, Chinese expats are everywhere to be seen in Colombo, and I can see Chinese investment only increasing in the medium term.</p>
<p>More power to the Lankans, they&#8217;ve hitched their wagon to an engine of growth and progress. Indians wish their country could be as efficient and cut-throat, but that&#8217;s not to be. Instead it&#8217;s so much easier to complain about Chinese authoritarianism or imperialism, etc.</p>
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