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I really don’t care that much.I’m not Indian so no one is going to make me chant this slogan.
Ms. Sherwani is an Indian Muslim and she does not like BMKJ. You are of course free to disagree with her. My only contention is that no one should be made to chant anything they don’t want to say. That is not how secular states operate.

Exactly. That is one of the reasons that the Indian and global post modernists are demanding that the Indian flag not be honored.

Personally . . . I wonder. Are these people on drugs?

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Kabir, seriously this is crap. Most Indian muslims find this stuff insane and don’t appreciate being dragged into fights that are not their own. The vast majority of people pushing this narrative are marxists and post modernists (many of whom are American or European) who put a non representative muslim face in front to mask themselves.

Conservative Sunni Indians have their own grievances which are different. For example they feel that Modi sides with Sufis, Shiites, liberal Sunnis and Sunni liberal females against them. It would take an article to explain all the reasons they feel this. Plus I would like to interview some conservative Sunnis who support Congress (not the few who swim with post modernists) to better understand their concerns. There is also a difference on Kashmir within Indian muslims. And a difference regarding perceptions of the Gulf, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Intra muslim politics in India is very complex. Much as it is in Pakistan.

Kabir, why don’t you talk to Indian muslims and hear their perspectives? You now live in the UK and have that option.

Take it up with Wikipedia. The first sentence of the article states that Bharat Mata is a mother goddess:

“Bhārat Mātā (Hindi, from Sanskrit Bhāratāmbā भारताम्बा; अम्बा ambā means ‘mother’) is the national personification of India as a mother goddess.[1]. ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharat_Mata

You may see no problem with “India Mother” but some Muslims don’t like the idea of worshipping/praising an entity other than Allah. It is their right not to chant that slogan if they do not wish to. You cannot impose your majoritarian preferences on a minority in a secular state. That is the bottom line. The original tweet by Ms. Sherwani expressed her disgust that this majoritarian Hindu slogan was chanted in the Parliament of a supposedly secular state. Feel free to disagree with her.

Kabir you are just assert something without offering your arguments for why it is true.

For the life of me I don’t understand why “Bharat Mata” is a “goddess”. It literally means “India Mother”.

Whether the slogan is in Urdu or Hindi doesn’t change the fact that Bharat Mata is a mother goddess and chanting a slogan in her praise goes against the strict Islamic commitment to monotheism.

My limited point is that people should not be made to chant slogans that they are not comfortable with (for whatever reason). If some Indian Muslims prefer saying “Jai Hind” or “Hindustan Zindabad”, there is nothing wrong with that.

There is Dharma Chakra in the flag ; so it must be communal , no?

Maybe as a compromise they can shout the slogan in Urdu instead?

Does the flag represent any specifically Hindu concepts? If not, then it cannot be communal in the sense that praising a mother goddess is.

The triple talaq (not talat) bill in its current form is very problematic. It only criminalizes the saying of the phrase “talaq talaq talaq”. If a Muslim man throws his wife out of the house without saying these words , he has not broken the law. The bill does nothing about the many Hindu women abandoned by their husbands. Rather it simply allows the government to seem like they are protecting Muslim women while demonizing Muslim men.