https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKXCC8TfnJ8

[I didn’t bother watching.]

I wonder how well this will play with the Democratic base? I think a Democrat who stands up to Islamists could win the Democratic primaries.

Francinicus, there are closet Islamists who push an Islamist agenda. They are often inauthentic and attack their foes indirectly on seemingly unrelated issues. They often tend to be quite anti “pagan” (including anti eastern philosophy — Hindu Buddhist Jain Sikh Taoist) and anti Jewish.

I have not seen evidence that Mehdi Hasan is a closet Islamist and am not sure why he is attacking Kamala. By contrast Linda Sarsour likely is an Islamist.

Mehdi Hasan is not a hardcore leftist.

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Shafiq R, what you say about anti Jewish sentiment in Bangladesh is shocking. Indian muslims tend to be pro Jewish and pro Israeli. [Probably over a third of India’s muslims are sufi tilted or liberal.] Bangladeshi and Pakistani muslims were also pro Jewish pre 1947. It is sad that Islamist brainwashing has gone this far.

I thought Bengali culture would fight imported Islamism and Jew hatred harder.

Many muslims have said that the only country with a large muslim population where muslims feel safe and can freely practice their religion is India. [The US and Canada have small muslim populations. But I would add both of them too.]

I long quibbled with this common saying, saying that muslims can also practice their religion in Indonesia, Malaysia and Turkey. But a lot of muslims disagree with me on this.

Thank Allah that India protects the world’s remaining Sufi and Irfan lineages. Inshallah India will not betray and abandon them the way most of the rest of the world (including Europe) have.

Agreed. I would go further. Asian Muslim Americans tend to be pro cop:

https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/06/04/is-american-culture-sharply-increasing-crime/

There are entire years in the US where no unarmed Asian Americans are killed by cops. Something like a dozen or so armed Asian Americans are killed by cops every year. Asian Americans commit violent crimes and are incarcerated at a small fraction the caucasian rate. [Note that American caucasians commit violent crimes and are imprisoned at a high rate.]

Black Lives Matter was originally partly a reaction against Asian Americans and Latino Americans.

Most Pakistanis have never met a Jew. I think the issue has more to do with the Israeli occupation of Palestine. What is really a political/nationalistic issue is looked at through a religious lens.

There are people who quote various hadiths about how Muslims can never be friends with Jews. Which is of course quite bizarre because Muslim men are allowed to marry Jewish and Christian women without the women having to convert. If you can marry someone there is no reason you can’t be friends with them.

Yeah, its strange though. i was watching a documentary where the last Jewish burial place in Mumbai is just beside a Muslim one, and the caretaker happens to be a Muslim guy for both. Similarly in Kerala which has one of the highest percentage of muslim pops and has had some communal violence but has not turned towards its jewish places (probably has the highest number of synagogues and stuff).

Just feel that Subcontinent folks dont understand anti semtisim in the same way they understand racism. That’s why i understand how they can love Israel and Hitler (which is used as an example for anti-semetism in India) simultaneously. I am not sure if Indian mosques have that degree of an “Judophobia” as Shafiq says. I could be wrong.

I think that South Asian Muslim Judophobia is real. Railing against Yehudi-Nasara is a staple in every Friday sermon in Masjids. They blame all the world’ evils, particularly the ones befalling upon Muslims on Yehudi-Nasara- America. More to the point they think it is the Yehudi’s who control the Nasara and America.

Anti Jewish bigotry is very common even in public discourse at the highest level in Bangladesh.

my personal exp. is that their antisemitism is sympathetic, not really about them. that is, they have issues with jews cuz arabs do cuz of israel. at my multiethnic masjid as a kid the vociferous and sincere jew-hatred came from arabs, often palestinians who were expelled from their lands. this percolated outward. the south asians tolerated it but they didn’t have ‘skin in the game’