sBarkkum

I am responding to the yaksha/yaku comment. I am afraid “The four clans that occupied srilanka before Vijaya are Yaksha (Yakku) , Naga, Deva and Raksha (Rakus)” is a fiction that is not supported. Even in India, there are tall stoties about yakshas and Rakshas, Yaksha ganam, a dance with the spirits.

The only people of Srilanka authenticated before the arrival of the Iranian farmer-AASI-steppe_MLBA admixture from India, were the veddas. The Wanniyala-Aetto were “forest people”, known as Veddas or Veddahs, are the only indigenous people of Sri Lanka; they were never numerous and are now too few in number. Surprisingly, they are not easily correlated with either the Andamanese or the AASI. Meaning, I could not find anything from table 2 of Ranaveera et al (Mitocjhondrial history of srilankan ethnic people) and relate the Veddas to anybody except the Srilankan Tamils and Sinhalese. The Figure 2 in that paper is indecipherable.

Vijay

If you recall my great grandmother is supposed to be Irish . U7 I think
https://sites.google.com/site/sbarrkum/dna

Sinhala or Tamil thats about Language not DNA.

Yes in Sri Lanka we all have much Indian ancestry.
Like the UK which has French (Norman) and German (Anglo Saxon).

Like I say often we in Sri Lanka (specially the Sinhalese) evolve to different ethos, the Island mentality. Very like the Caribbean.

Anyway in Sri Lanka we are descendants of the original peoples of South Asia. The peoples called the Yaksha. We still have Yak Natum (Translated to Yak=devil Natum-dances).

cheers sereno

sBarkkum:

You are possibly reading too much into photography and faces. There are few tribes in Tamilnadu (700 K population) and even the lankan tribals have mostly disappeared. You are like no tribes of Tamilnadu (or the farmer castes either). The hill tribe foragers and those who cremate in TN have F-M89 and H1-M52; no J2B2. Even the dryland farmers have H1-M52 or L1-M27.

See Arunkumar et al, “Population Differentiation of Southern Indian Male Lineages Correlates with Agricultural Expansions Predating the Caste System”

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/annotation/8663819b-5ff0-4133-b70a-2d686dfb0a44

Your people are different, and may have left India after the formation of the caste system. That can be indicated by the presence of a larger amount of R1A.

My father and Eldest sister (Grace Manomani). I think around 1924.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fnt18rauhsbYed347

My father was born in 1917, vaguely recall him saying being dragged for proposal photo.
Apparently the proposed husband (Alegacone) was from Eastern Ceylon (Batticoloa). Alegacone had money and had a De Soto car which my father drove into a paddy field

The point of the photo being my aunt could be a Tribal sans the fancy clothes and shoes.

sbarkkum and Karan:

It is a bit confusing about J2b2 because J2B2 has a L283 clade (only 6000 years old) which branched into steppes and carried over to India; and Z2432 which split off L283 some 11,000 years ago and believed to be one main marker off the Iranian farmer ancestry in India.

If I may ask you, did you get information on MtDNA? if you have M2, you are a classic Indian, not sinhala.

Hi Karan

Paternal line is “Tamil”. Supposed be descendants of the Arya Chakrvarti line from Kalinga. Recorded in the Golden Book of India and Ceylon.

Tamil names end in “singham”, yes big difference
Some Sinhalese ask how could I have name ending in “singhe”.

Answer:Thats my ancestral name and some other Tamils like Tissa Weerasinghe, Edirimanasinghe, Satara Kula Singhe:
Can search for ancestry at
https://ceylontamils.com/search/

So what am I just a mixed mutt, proud of sudra paternal and maternal ancestry.

My Kalinga descendant paternal family was very ethnic looking, i.e African looking, big lips, thick necks and they were proud of their looks.
Tamil Scholars too, my grandfathers sister was first female novelist in modern Ceylon.

http://sbarrkum.blogspot.com/2017/08/head-clerk-of-dimbulla-tea-s-thomas-and.html

Paternal family photos
https://photos.app.goo.gl/lGEvcI4TYV8X6KwD3

Maternal Family links|
https://goo.gl/photos/2EUMch9xu9ycjei5A

My mother at about 24, part Irish
Note the hair line growing up to eyebrows which is very South Asian
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6ndxgpdp9c9sD8zh8

My father used to comment about the hair less ness of my paternal grandfather. My mother never needed to shave.

One of my sisters is hairy and sweat smells.
My sweat (over weight, alcoholic) barely smells, East asian genes?

Karan hopefully answered more than above the questions,

what is your paternal line, tamil or sinhala? j2b2 is an iranian farmer y chromosome, more specifically associated with dravidian elite castes like the vellala and its high amongst brahui. I think its associated with the people who introduced proto-elamo-dravidian languages to india.

You can say this to Razib and see my comment under ‘We are all Aryans now’ (I only missed to mention ‘All Rainbows with non-binary genders’). Just say Ho!

I am j2b2* and 50% ASI (according to HarappaDNA analysis).