The leader of the second Aryan expedition, Serbon (in the Bible – Asur, for Greeks Heracles, for Romans – Hercules, for Jews – Melkart, also Suria, Asur, Sardan, Sandan, Serapis, Sardus, Sankus, Sabadius, Sarmandus, etc.), brought with him warriors from India, Media or Persia and from Asia Minor. In conquering North Africa, he settled the Medes, Perseus and Indus. He settled Indus in Mauritania. Ancient Moors are Indus in origin. Pomponius Mela mentions the Sardabal River in Numidia (Pomponius Mela: Oeuvres completes, J.J. Dubochet, Paris, 1845). Pliny referred this river as Sardabala and Claudius Ptolomei as Serbatis. The same writer mentions two more rivers in North Africa: Serbes and Savus (Claudious Ptolomaeus: Geographia, Francesco Berlinghieri, Florence, 1482). Serbes is today’s Iser. Around the Atlas Mountains were inhabited by tribes of the Serbian race and among them Getuli, which are actually the Serbian Gethas. That is why (M.Davezac: Le Ravennate, Jean Gravier, Rouen, 1888) says ‘Getulia, south of Mauritania’.

Serbon also settled Iberians from Asia Minor and because this country is called Iberia. Asia Minor Iberians are also a Serbian tribe. That is why in ancient Iberia there are many names of cities, rivers and mountains in Serbian. Today’s Ebro River is Ibar (river in Kosovo). Ptolomey mentions the city of Sarabris near modern Zamora (Claudious Ptolomaeus: Geographia, Francesco Berlinghieri, Florence, 1482). Stephanus De Urbibus (Jacobi De Jonge, Amstel Dodami, 1678) mentioned the city of Sargantias which is in fact Sarbantia.

Some see fighting while others see ‘difference of opinion’ & some people add further info to add into the debate/discussion.

We interact to learn & understand but sometimes strong opinions as well as judgement leads to misunderstandings.

PS: I love Razib’s no nonsense remarks as usual.

People don’t start usually cursing at internet strangers unless they are triggered.

Don’t worry. Like coming to grips with the Aryan Invasion, the shock of this too, will pass.

‘Mleccha’ is a Serbian word which was always used to name Venetians up to today. The name Venice (Venetia) is rarely used. In over 95% of the documents and books is used as the official name Mletacka (i.e. Mleccha) Republic. The Aryans considered ‘mleccha’ those who did not live under Aryans laws, who defied Aryans laws or fell under the influence of some other laws. The Venetians came under the influence of the Catholic Church and therefore they were called ‘mleccha’. The term is not pejorative although sometimes it can be sneering, used as ‘mleccici’ i.e. ‘mlečići’ i.e. ‘little mlecchas’.

INDTHINGS as the peddler of BS surpasses almost everyone else around here. Even the OIT people attempt to prove their theories through logic and evidence (cherrypicked though they may be) but he/she picks an offhand comment from some obscure text, misinterprets it and grows a theory around it.

Pretty much every population group in Pakistani Punjab is an extension of groups in North/West India. I’m too lazy to give an exposition here, but this article illustrates this pretty well: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/view-most-pakistanis-are-actually-indians/articleshow/70811241.cms. TLDR: they are Jats, Rajputs, Gujjars, and though unnamed in the article, I believe there are Dalits/Chamars too. There were Brahmins as well, but they were either killed or migrated during Partition.

Kashmir, Sindh, Gujarat, Rajasthan, all have similar clan dynamics. If INDTHINGS wants to claim that people who live in Pakistani Punjab were always considered mlecchas, then he/she will have to explain why their cousins who lived up to the middle of UP were not.

British India or the India we know today?

LOL, Why would i be upset?

We wuz multi-cellular organisms. Aryans were viruses, arguably not even living things. We all carry their mRNA in our genome from being infected.

Regarding Malecchas –

https://www.academia.edu/37531087/Reflective_Learning_on_the_term_of_Mleccha_by_the_Chinese_Buddhist_Past_for_Current_Religiosity

Otherness does not always mean Shit it can also be Indifference {which may create passive discrimination} but it can also allow spaces to both sides to choose the common ways & grounds to converge & move forward.