https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kD6hDx1gk4

https://www.academia.edu/36998766/Five_waves_of_Indo-European_expansion_a_preliminary_model_2018_

See section 3 below written by a trained linguist Igor Tonayen Belayev

Iranians do not have a word for fire based on the most common roots “agni” or *pur/pahuur. Instead they have a totally different word Athar that is found in no other IE language except Sanskrit (athari=flame.). So if indeed the “Indo Iranians” have been migrating together for thousands of years from where ever, it would mean that the Iranians totally forgot their words for fire and proceeded to invent an entirely new word for such as basic thing required for human survival as manipulation of fire. More over, athari makes its appearance during the late Vedic times. The only logical conclusion then is Iranians were the LAST ones to separate from the common IE stock in South Asia after all other groups had left.

“The ~30% is a rough floor on their “Indo-Aryan” ancestry, because by the time the Indo-Aryans arrived in South Asia they may have been less than 100% “steppe”, accreting (sic?) Iranian-like ancestry which has affinities to the IVC peoples.”

https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2019/09/12/the-aryan-integration-theory-ait/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The geneticist working in this field including David Reich are basically ASSUMING the steppe homeland hypothesis. Here in this video Koenraad Elst dissects this with precision. The steppe hypothesis in untenable on LINGUISTIC grounds. Iranian and Greek have too much in common to have divulged for thousands of years as required by the steppe hypothesis. Archaeology has already rejected it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kD6hDx1gk4

Now geneticists have been called to the rescue. If 20 or 30% ancestry from here and there can explain language migrations Indo Aryan languages would be 30% Indo European, 30% Dravidian and what not. Unfortunately, linguistics does not work in this fashion.

“I cannot get over the biggest thing in this podcast, that IA immigration / invasion …. into the Indian subcontinent had nothing to do with BMAC.”

Me too. Absence of BMAC genetic imprint on Indian population is a major incongruity. In fact this brings a confusion to BMAC’s linguistic identity itself. If BMAC didn’t have much steppe in them, then how can they be Indo-Iranian speakers, as generally thought.

@atheist mallu
Talageri clearly shows that the Indo Aryan words (proper name prefixes, suffixes, etc) in mitanni are all words from the late Mandalas and completely missing (not a single instance) from the early family Mandalas. This can be proven to be wrong, but no one has.

Hence Mitanni has to be late or post late RV stage. It cannot be during old RV era or pre RV era. Therefore, the date of late RV era is pushed to near 2000bc (As Kassites got Indo Aryan cultures around 1750bc, Mitanni got it around 1500bc).

Therefore the Sintashta/andronovo migration has nothing to do with Vedic culture. The old RV Mandalas are probably in the early 3rd mill BCE, late RV period around 2000bce. The chariots are a late RV era technology, and you see chariot burial in sanauli around 2000bc. All fits.

Wiki: “Soma is a Vedic Sanskrit word that literally means “distill, extract, sprinkle”, often connected in the context of rituals. There has been much speculation about the most likely identity of the original plant. Traditional accounts with unbroken continuity in India, from Ayurveda and Siddha medicine practitioners and Somayajna ritualists undoubtedly use “Somalata”.

Candidates that have been suggested include honey, mushrooms, psychoactive and other herbal plants.

Irish Times: “Mead is the world’s oldest alcoholic drink, made by fermenting honey in water. Also known as the nectar of the gods, honey wine or ambrosia, it immediately conjure up images of battles, goblets and chieftains. Mead was popular with Vikings, Mayans, Egyptians, Greeks and Romans alike. Mead was associated with immortality and otherworldly powers, often featuring in Greek ceremonies due to its symbolism and the magic that it represented. In England, mead was seen as medicinal, with a potent infusion of herbs in the sweet mead.”
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>>>> I mentioned earlier that Sarmatians (or Sarbatians) were a Serbian tribe.
Soma (or Šoma) is a Serbian word meaning alcoholic drink (gin) of bad quality. It is also the name for the residue after alcoholic distillation. Mead (in Serbian – Medovina) is ancient Serbian alcoholic drink made from honey. It has been known for thousands of years. Honey in Serbian is MED. This word was borrowed from Serbian language and used in more than 40 languages including many SA languages and English. I recently wrote a comment and found that some languages in India have this word while in other (e.g. Tamil, Telugu) they use different word for honey. Malayalam, Kannada, Sinhala, Punjabi (maida), Bangla (madhu), Kazakh, Kyurdish, etc have the word MED.

MED is also a root for – medicine, medication, medal, etc.

The latest English translation of Rig Veda done few years ago is available on academia.edu

The Rigveda
The Earliest Religious
Poetry of India
Translated by
Stephanie W. Jamison
and
Joel P. Brereton.

A Russian translation by Elizarenkova is also fairly recent.

Griffith’s translation is more than 120 years old.

OTOH, archaeologist Viktor Sarianidi thought that the Saka Haumavarga learned to use the ritual hallucinogenic beverage haoma/soma from the local settled population of Bactria-Margiana (the descendants of the BMAC folk?).

The Saka Haumavarga probably did. Hauma = Indo-Aryan Soma, while the reconstructed Proto-Indo-Iranian root *Huarg- here means ‘turn around, lay around (sthg).’ If Old Persian varga- here means ‘twist, tear out from the ground’, then the Saka Haumavarga were ‘Hauma twisters/collectors’; yet the most widely accepted proposal is that of Karl Hoffman, who translates Haumavarga as ‘laying Haoma-plants around (the sacred fire). See at

http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/haumavarga