Can I just add…My question regarding cow worshipping (when it started, is it related to Aryans, what does it mean, etc) was not answered. I assume that the current BP readers don’t know the answer and I will try to find the answer somewhere else.

Onlooker — I’d be very interested to know where this hadith (hadees) can be found — and would also appreciate a reference to cow-urine drinking in a Vedic or Ayurvedic text, preferably one online that I can quote.

Also I’d like to thank Razib for starting this fascinating and instructive thread, and those who have commented here.

Sumit, can you give any examples of Hindutva people who do not speak highly of muslim saints?

Isn’t the main charge against them that they support and ally with Shia and Sufis against conservative Sunnis?

Many muslim saints and scholars have made an Islamic case for freedom of art and thought.

The Islamists and soft Islamists who oppose freedom of art and thought might represent a smaller minority of muslims than we think and fear.

“And then they merely follow the golden rule.”

The Golden Rule is seriously flawed. The order should be as follows:
—1)Do what benefits others
—2)Do as others want done unto them
—3)Do as we would have others do unto us

Most people don’t want to be treated as we wish to be treated. Many genocides and wars have been caused by people following the golden rule.

And then they merely follow the golden rule.

From what I have seen religious Hindus broadly consider Allah and Ishvara to be the same thing.
And they generally respect Muslim saints.

Also they generally do not speak ill about any religious figures.

Hindutva types are a differnet story ofc.

Not interact with muslims in America?

Weird.

I thought muslims and Hindus interact all the time in the US.

Many muslims go to temples (at least Shirdi Sai Baba temples) and participate in Hindu/Yoga/New Age spiritual events.

Hindus go to Sufi things all the time too.

Hindus and Muslims ubiquitously co-found companies together. Invest in each others companies. VCs, Angel Investors (and Investment Banks, Asset Management, Wall Street, Consulting) are chock full of Hindus and muslims.

Many muslims and Hindus marry each other too.. So many that I can’t keep count.

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Many of the comments on this thread are surprising.

Ayurveda is a big thing. Small portions of cow urine and cow feces are combined with many other ingredients for large numbers of different medicinal recipes. Is there interest in Brown Pundits interviewing an Ayurvedic Doctor?

Many Ayurvedic treatments are now reimbursed by insurance companies, medicare and medicaid.

For that matter Acupuncture (Taoist medicine) is increasingly mainstream in medicine.

really? I interacted with Muslim Pakistanis and Bangladeshis a whole lot growing up. Must be NJ thing. People even had specific slurs for Gujaratis, “ginders”

Saurav,

In SL too first menses of a girl is celebrated, almost to the level of a wedding by some. Called “Kotahalu” or “Magula (which a word used for weddings and festivals” .

In the past it was the advertisement that the girly was ready to married off.

Much like sweet 16 or Debutante Ball.
Sweet 16 seems to be becoming more common in urban sri lanka

Thanks VijayVan

Not forgotten about Abraham Kovoor, just pushed in the back recesses of the brain.

” for his campaign to expose as frauds various Indian and Sri Lankan “god-men” and so-called paranormal phenomena. His direct, trenchant criticism of spiritual frauds and organized religions was enthusiastically received by audiences, initiating a new dynamism in the Rationalist movement, especially in Sri Lanka and India”

“In 1963, Kovoor announced an award of Rs. 100,000 for anyone who could demonstrate supernatural or miraculous powers under foolproof and fraud-proof conditions. The challenge listed 23 miracles or feats that godmen”

LKR 100K in 1963 would have bought you a fancy house in the the heart of Colombo that would worth USD 1 million now.

The Sri Lankan Rationalist Association, led by Professor Carlo Fonseka, renewed the challenge in 2012 and increased the reward to one million dollars. (Similar challenges have been posed by Basava Premanand and James Randi.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._T._Kovoor

Shri Rajib Ji, you should sell Khanmutra. Patreon members get free samples.

Very few modern day hindus actually drink cow piss, and no one eats cow dung at all.
Cow dung is used in hawans, which is like a religious practice where offerings are given to different gods in a fire.
Cow dungs are being sold because in cities its hard to find cow dungs .
I am surprised to see how many rumours float around and the misconceptions there are regarding hinduism ?