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		By: VijayVan		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53283</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VijayVan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 14:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7901731/Police-chief-admitted-force-ignored-sex-abuse-grooming-gangs-30-years.html

Uk Police admits fear of being  painted racist made them go easy on grooming gangs

Also Nazi-Islam ties  during WW2


https://www.dw.com/en/how-nazis-courted-the-islamic-world-during-wwii/a-41358387]]></description>
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<p>Uk Police admits fear of being  painted racist made them go easy on grooming gangs</p>
<p>Also Nazi-Islam ties  during WW2</p>
<p><a href="https://www.dw.com/en/how-nazis-courted-the-islamic-world-during-wwii/a-41358387" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.dw.com/en/how-nazis-courted-the-islamic-world-during-wwii/a-41358387</a></p>
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		By: DaThang		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaThang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 23:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53233&quot;&gt;thewarlock&lt;/a&gt;.

Something like that, the AASI and non-AASI components might  change once a proper proxy for AASI is discovered.
I saw a south and central Asia breakdown on another source and it pinned Gujaratis at 50% NW_Indian_0%AHG (basically the non-AASI of IVC, probably combined Iran component and WSHG) on average so your result is in the range of variation. The Gujarati steppe in that breakdown was 11.2% on average and total simulated AASI components were 33.8% on average.

Gujarati Brahmins on the other hand had a similar amount of non-AASI Indus, lower AASI and higher steppe on average.

https://imgur.com/a/eq5uuAG]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53233">thewarlock</a>.</p>
<p>Something like that, the AASI and non-AASI components might  change once a proper proxy for AASI is discovered.<br />
I saw a south and central Asia breakdown on another source and it pinned Gujaratis at 50% NW_Indian_0%AHG (basically the non-AASI of IVC, probably combined Iran component and WSHG) on average so your result is in the range of variation. The Gujarati steppe in that breakdown was 11.2% on average and total simulated AASI components were 33.8% on average.</p>
<p>Gujarati Brahmins on the other hand had a similar amount of non-AASI Indus, lower AASI and higher steppe on average.</p>
<p><a href="https://imgur.com/a/eq5uuAG" rel="nofollow ugc">https://imgur.com/a/eq5uuAG</a></p>
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		By: thewarlock		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thewarlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 21:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Dathang
“fit”: 2.7042,
“IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2”: 77.5,
“RUS_Sintashta_MLBA”: 10.83,
“Paniya”: 10,
“IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1”: 1.67,

Cool. So I would be like 33% AASI (counting 30% of my 77.5 is AASI) 11% Steppe and 56% Indus]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dathang<br />
“fit”: 2.7042,<br />
“IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2”: 77.5,<br />
“RUS_Sintashta_MLBA”: 10.83,<br />
“Paniya”: 10,<br />
“IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1”: 1.67,</p>
<p>Cool. So I would be like 33% AASI (counting 30% of my 77.5 is AASI) 11% Steppe and 56% Indus</p>
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		By: DaThang		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53224</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaThang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2020 19:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53121&quot;&gt;DaThang&lt;/a&gt;.

The new BA2 on G25 is a combo of the old BA2 and old BA3 from Narasimhan&#039;s paper. Old BA2 was around 14% AASI/AHG and the rest was Iran + Tyumen. Old BA3 was over 40% AASI with the rest being Iran + Tyumen. Additionally, old BA2 looked like it had a little more Tyumen than old BA3. IDK what the number of these samples was so I have no prior clue about the composition of the new BA2. I am not sure if simulated AASI on G25 produces the same result as Narasimhan&#039;s AHG component, but this is what I get with G25 anyway. Using Ganj Dareh, Tyumen, Simulated AASI (simulated by someone on anthrogenica):

&quot;sample&quot;: &quot;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:Average&quot;,
    &quot;fit&quot;: 2.6674,
    &quot;IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N&quot;: 60,
    &quot;CustomGroup_Simulated_AASI&quot;: 31.67,
    &quot;RUS_Tyumen_HG&quot;: 8.33

I don&#039;t expect this to be completely accurate since the simulated AASI is ultimately derived from Onge which is not a very good proxy for actual mesolithic AASI.
BA1 (old and new are unchanged as far as I know) on the other hand was Iran + Anatolia + Tyumen/WSHG + AASI. It was under 10% AASI and had plenty of Anatolian ancestry, so it was a bit like the BMAC samples which were entirely Iran + Anatolia + WSHG/Tyumen.

The biggest difference between new BA2 and BA1 is that BA1 has Anatolia component and less AASI than BA2.

Incidentally this Iran + Anatolia + Tyumen combo in the past feigned similarity to CHG + EEF (descended from Anatolia) + EHG combo which resulted in overestimation of the steppe component in south and central Asians back in 2015 to 2017.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53121">DaThang</a>.</p>
<p>The new BA2 on G25 is a combo of the old BA2 and old BA3 from Narasimhan&#8217;s paper. Old BA2 was around 14% AASI/AHG and the rest was Iran + Tyumen. Old BA3 was over 40% AASI with the rest being Iran + Tyumen. Additionally, old BA2 looked like it had a little more Tyumen than old BA3. IDK what the number of these samples was so I have no prior clue about the composition of the new BA2. I am not sure if simulated AASI on G25 produces the same result as Narasimhan&#8217;s AHG component, but this is what I get with G25 anyway. Using Ganj Dareh, Tyumen, Simulated AASI (simulated by someone on anthrogenica):</p>
<p>&#8220;sample&#8221;: &#8220;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:Average&#8221;,<br />
    &#8220;fit&#8221;: 2.6674,<br />
    &#8220;IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N&#8221;: 60,<br />
    &#8220;CustomGroup_Simulated_AASI&#8221;: 31.67,<br />
    &#8220;RUS_Tyumen_HG&#8221;: 8.33</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect this to be completely accurate since the simulated AASI is ultimately derived from Onge which is not a very good proxy for actual mesolithic AASI.<br />
BA1 (old and new are unchanged as far as I know) on the other hand was Iran + Anatolia + Tyumen/WSHG + AASI. It was under 10% AASI and had plenty of Anatolian ancestry, so it was a bit like the BMAC samples which were entirely Iran + Anatolia + WSHG/Tyumen.</p>
<p>The biggest difference between new BA2 and BA1 is that BA1 has Anatolia component and less AASI than BA2.</p>
<p>Incidentally this Iran + Anatolia + Tyumen combo in the past feigned similarity to CHG + EEF (descended from Anatolia) + EHG combo which resulted in overestimation of the steppe component in south and central Asians back in 2015 to 2017.</p>
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		By: thewarlock		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53133</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 23:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53121&quot;&gt;DaThang&lt;/a&gt;.

I like running these different models. I get:

    &quot;fit&quot;: 2.7042,
    &quot;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2&quot;: 77.5,
    &quot;RUS_Sintashta_MLBA&quot;: 10.83,
    &quot;Paniya&quot;: 10,
    &quot;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1&quot;: 1.67,

Wow, I am a super Indus heavy dude. The river mothers and fathers have truly blessed me. 

What is the difference between BA1 and BA2?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53121">DaThang</a>.</p>
<p>I like running these different models. I get:</p>
<p>    &#8220;fit&#8221;: 2.7042,<br />
    &#8220;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2&#8221;: 77.5,<br />
    &#8220;RUS_Sintashta_MLBA&#8221;: 10.83,<br />
    &#8220;Paniya&#8221;: 10,<br />
    &#8220;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1&#8221;: 1.67,</p>
<p>Wow, I am a super Indus heavy dude. The river mothers and fathers have truly blessed me. </p>
<p>What is the difference between BA1 and BA2?</p>
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		By: DaThang		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaThang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 20:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53105&quot;&gt;thewarlock&lt;/a&gt;.

IDK about regular Potohari Punjabis, but the Potohar Rajputs are like this:

&quot;sample&quot;: &quot;Potohar_Rajput:Average&quot;,
    &quot;fit&quot;: 1.8453,
    &quot;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2&quot;: 54.17,
    &quot;RUS_Sintashta_MLBA&quot;: 20.83,
    &quot;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1&quot;: 12.5,
    &quot;Paniya&quot;: 12.5

One bonus Brahmin result-

    &quot;sample&quot;: &quot;Potohar_Brahmin:Average&quot;,
    &quot;fit&quot;: 1.9859,
    &quot;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2&quot;: 45.83,
    &quot;RUS_Sintashta_MLBA&quot;: 21.67,
    &quot;Paniya&quot;: 19.17,
    &quot;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1&quot;: 13.33

They seem to be like generic north Indian Rajputs and Brahmins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53105">thewarlock</a>.</p>
<p>IDK about regular Potohari Punjabis, but the Potohar Rajputs are like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;sample&#8221;: &#8220;Potohar_Rajput:Average&#8221;,<br />
    &#8220;fit&#8221;: 1.8453,<br />
    &#8220;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2&#8221;: 54.17,<br />
    &#8220;RUS_Sintashta_MLBA&#8221;: 20.83,<br />
    &#8220;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1&#8221;: 12.5,<br />
    &#8220;Paniya&#8221;: 12.5</p>
<p>One bonus Brahmin result-</p>
<p>    &#8220;sample&#8221;: &#8220;Potohar_Brahmin:Average&#8221;,<br />
    &#8220;fit&#8221;: 1.9859,<br />
    &#8220;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2&#8221;: 45.83,<br />
    &#8220;RUS_Sintashta_MLBA&#8221;: 21.67,<br />
    &#8220;Paniya&#8221;: 19.17,<br />
    &#8220;IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1&#8221;: 13.33</p>
<p>They seem to be like generic north Indian Rajputs and Brahmins.</p>
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		By: thewarlock		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53020&quot;&gt;Razib Khan&lt;/a&gt;.

from my knowledge, miripuris are a potohari ethnic Punjabi people, despite the fact that miripur is in POK]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53020">Razib Khan</a>.</p>
<p>from my knowledge, miripuris are a potohari ethnic Punjabi people, despite the fact that miripur is in POK</p>
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		By: Kabir		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kabir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 12:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53097&quot;&gt;Slapstik&lt;/a&gt;.

For God&#039;s sake, you are very well aware that &quot;Kashmiri&quot; is used to refer to all residents of the former kingdom of Jammu and Kashmir not just to ethnic Kashmiris.]]></description>
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<p>For God&#8217;s sake, you are very well aware that &#8220;Kashmiri&#8221; is used to refer to all residents of the former kingdom of Jammu and Kashmir not just to ethnic Kashmiris.</p>
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		By: Slapstik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Slapstik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 12:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53017&quot;&gt;Ali Choudhury&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol @ Mirpuris are Kashmiris.

(I’ve disabused many Mirpuris of this silly notion by just speaking two sentences of Kashmiri. It doesn’t take much more than that. 

Most of them do call themselves British Pakistanis - not that I give a toss either way)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-53017">Ali Choudhury</a>.</p>
<p>Lol @ Mirpuris are Kashmiris.</p>
<p>(I’ve disabused many Mirpuris of this silly notion by just speaking two sentences of Kashmiri. It doesn’t take much more than that. </p>
<p>Most of them do call themselves British Pakistanis &#8211; not that I give a toss either way)</p>
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		By: Arjun		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jan 2020 04:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-52990&quot;&gt;Kabir&lt;/a&gt;.

A little logic lesson (which is probably wasted):

Fact: British grooming gangs are overwhelmingly Pakistani Muslims. 

If &quot;honor culture&quot; is not solely the property of this group (as you assert) then all that does is to rule out &quot;honor culture&quot; as being the sole salient factor. There must be some other property this group possesses (to the exclusion of all other groups) that is behind this.

Hmmm... must be the sexy virility this group (alone) possesses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/01/16/race-and-religion-trump-class/#comment-52990">Kabir</a>.</p>
<p>A little logic lesson (which is probably wasted):</p>
<p>Fact: British grooming gangs are overwhelmingly Pakistani Muslims. </p>
<p>If &#8220;honor culture&#8221; is not solely the property of this group (as you assert) then all that does is to rule out &#8220;honor culture&#8221; as being the sole salient factor. There must be some other property this group possesses (to the exclusion of all other groups) that is behind this.</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; must be the sexy virility this group (alone) possesses.</p>
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