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		By: DaThang		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaThang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 22:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60507&quot;&gt;Jatt_Scythian&lt;/a&gt;.

Have a look at this:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-63138-w#MOESM1]]></description>
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<p>Have a look at this:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-63138-w#MOESM1" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-63138-w#MOESM1</a></p>
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		By: Jatt_Scythian		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60507</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 22:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60503&quot;&gt;DaThang&lt;/a&gt;.

I mean that&#039;s to be expected though right. They were still located further South than most of Northern Europe. But I doubt they were swarthy- probably in Central European Range I guess.]]></description>
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<p>I mean that&#8217;s to be expected though right. They were still located further South than most of Northern Europe. But I doubt they were swarthy- probably in Central European Range I guess.</p>
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		By: DaThang		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60503</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaThang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 21:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60474&quot;&gt;Jatt_Scythian&lt;/a&gt;.

Razib ran the Sintashta genomes through hirisplex and the results weren&#039;t as light as modern northern Europeans. This is also true for early bronze age Baltic populations, the selection largely ramped up in the later parts of the bronze age and the iron age.

The nasal indices aren&#039;t very low considering that these are dry skulls.
http://humanphenotypes.net/metrics/nasalindex.html
Ranged from leptorrhine to mesorrhine.

IDK about any Dinarid tendencies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60474">Jatt_Scythian</a>.</p>
<p>Razib ran the Sintashta genomes through hirisplex and the results weren&#8217;t as light as modern northern Europeans. This is also true for early bronze age Baltic populations, the selection largely ramped up in the later parts of the bronze age and the iron age.</p>
<p>The nasal indices aren&#8217;t very low considering that these are dry skulls.<br />
<a href="http://humanphenotypes.net/metrics/nasalindex.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://humanphenotypes.net/metrics/nasalindex.html</a><br />
Ranged from leptorrhine to mesorrhine.</p>
<p>IDK about any Dinarid tendencies.</p>
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		By: Jatt_Scythian		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 19:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know Steppe_LBA (Yamnaya) was dark but isn&#039;t Steppe_MLBA (Sintashta-Andronovo) mostly associated with light hair and eyes?

Was it also true they had Dinaromophic/Iranomorphic tendencies?

Also from the source you posted those are some low ass nasal indices no?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Steppe_LBA (Yamnaya) was dark but isn&#8217;t Steppe_MLBA (Sintashta-Andronovo) mostly associated with light hair and eyes?</p>
<p>Was it also true they had Dinaromophic/Iranomorphic tendencies?</p>
<p>Also from the source you posted those are some low ass nasal indices no?</p>
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		By: DaThang		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60468</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaThang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 18:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60451&quot;&gt;DaThang&lt;/a&gt;.

Both were intermediate between Med and CM so mostly like Nordids, and had both elements, but probably did not have the pigmentation frequency associated with modern Nordids.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=wMw1AAAAMAAJ&#038;pg=RA1-PA14&#038;lpg=RA1-PA14&#038;dq=karasuk+cranial+measurement&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=9y5-ljXGWL&#038;sig=ACfU3U26bepDNPstlrsqFG-7hWG0Y3joIw&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwiXksCjm9LoAhXPV98KHZRBAoYQ6AEwFnoECA0QKA#v=onepage&#038;q=karasuk%20cranial%20measurement&#038;f=false

https://www.academia.edu/2357325/THE_ORIGINS_OF_THE_ANDRONOVO_FEDOROVKA_POPULATION_OF_SOUTHWESTERN_SIBERIA_BASED_ON_A_MIDDLE_BRONZE_AGE_CRANIAL_SERIES_FROM_THE_ALTAI_FOREST-STEPPE_ZONE

Description of Andronovo makes it sound somewhat like eastern Nordid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60451">DaThang</a>.</p>
<p>Both were intermediate between Med and CM so mostly like Nordids, and had both elements, but probably did not have the pigmentation frequency associated with modern Nordids.</p>
<p><a href="https://books.google.ca/books?id=wMw1AAAAMAAJ&#038;pg=RA1-PA14&#038;lpg=RA1-PA14&#038;dq=karasuk+cranial+measurement&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=9y5-ljXGWL&#038;sig=ACfU3U26bepDNPstlrsqFG-7hWG0Y3joIw&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwiXksCjm9LoAhXPV98KHZRBAoYQ6AEwFnoECA0QKA#v=onepage&#038;q=karasuk%20cranial%20measurement&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow ugc">https://books.google.ca/books?id=wMw1AAAAMAAJ&#038;pg=RA1-PA14&#038;lpg=RA1-PA14&#038;dq=karasuk+cranial+measurement&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=9y5-ljXGWL&#038;sig=ACfU3U26bepDNPstlrsqFG-7hWG0Y3joIw&#038;hl=en&#038;sa=X&#038;ved=2ahUKEwiXksCjm9LoAhXPV98KHZRBAoYQ6AEwFnoECA0QKA#v=onepage&#038;q=karasuk%20cranial%20measurement&#038;f=false</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.academia.edu/2357325/THE_ORIGINS_OF_THE_ANDRONOVO_FEDOROVKA_POPULATION_OF_SOUTHWESTERN_SIBERIA_BASED_ON_A_MIDDLE_BRONZE_AGE_CRANIAL_SERIES_FROM_THE_ALTAI_FOREST-STEPPE_ZONE" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.academia.edu/2357325/THE_ORIGINS_OF_THE_ANDRONOVO_FEDOROVKA_POPULATION_OF_SOUTHWESTERN_SIBERIA_BASED_ON_A_MIDDLE_BRONZE_AGE_CRANIAL_SERIES_FROM_THE_ALTAI_FOREST-STEPPE_ZONE</a></p>
<p>Description of Andronovo makes it sound somewhat like eastern Nordid.</p>
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		By: Jatt_Scythian		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60464</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 18:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also how would you classify the Kushan and Saka busts here?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalchayan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also how would you classify the Kushan and Saka busts here?</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalchayan" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalchayan</a></p>
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		By: Jatt_Scythian		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60453</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jatt_Scythian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60451&quot;&gt;DaThang&lt;/a&gt;.

And steppe MLBA were exclusively Corded or did they have Med proper and CM admixture?

What about Yamnaya/Steppe EBA?]]></description>
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<p>And steppe MLBA were exclusively Corded or did they have Med proper and CM admixture?</p>
<p>What about Yamnaya/Steppe EBA?</p>
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		By: DaThang		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaThang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 16:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60444&quot;&gt;Jatt_Scythian&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Corded and Nordids in general are intermediate between (heavily agriculturally selected) Mediterranid and (non-agriculturally selected) cro-magnid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60444">Jatt_Scythian</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Corded and Nordids in general are intermediate between (heavily agriculturally selected) Mediterranid and (non-agriculturally selected) cro-magnid.</p>
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		By: Jatt_Scythian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jatt_Scythian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 15:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60390&quot;&gt;DaThang&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks. I fully admit to being a novice to this. I know steppe MLBA were often sterotypes as Corded or East Nordid. Isn&#039;t Corded relativley gracile to CM influenced phenotypes?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60390">DaThang</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks. I fully admit to being a novice to this. I know steppe MLBA were often sterotypes as Corded or East Nordid. Isn&#8217;t Corded relativley gracile to CM influenced phenotypes?</p>
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		By: sbarrkum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2020 07:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/05/02/brahmins-were-made-in-india-not-the-steppe/#comment-60365&quot;&gt;Razib Khan&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt; but there are dark Punjabis. e.g. the actress parminder nagra.&lt;/i&gt;

Parminder Nagra would be considered very light skinned in Sri Lanka.
https://www.google.com/search?q=parminder+nagra&#038;source=lnms&#038;tbm=isch

In this video, one of girls would be considered very light skinned.  The other slightly more than average dark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJuvkBgVfik]]></description>
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<p><i> but there are dark Punjabis. e.g. the actress parminder nagra.</i></p>
<p>Parminder Nagra would be considered very light skinned in Sri Lanka.<br />
<a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=parminder+nagra&#038;source=lnms&#038;tbm=isch" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/search?q=parminder+nagra&#038;source=lnms&#038;tbm=isch</a></p>
<p>In this video, one of girls would be considered very light skinned.  The other slightly more than average dark.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJuvkBgVfik" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJuvkBgVfik</a></p>
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