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		By: Myth from history &#8211; Brown Pundits		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] were many responses to my post on the Maratha Mindset: How to Control Your History and Emotions to Grasp the Future on Your Terms. I didn&#8217;t have the time to respond in detail, but a few conversations suggest I could be a [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] were many responses to my post on the Maratha Mindset: How to Control Your History and Emotions to Grasp the Future on Your Terms. I didn&#8217;t have the time to respond in detail, but a few conversations suggest I could be a [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Amey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65459&quot;&gt;Ugra&lt;/a&gt;.

Tatya Tope and Rani Laxmibai beg to differ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65459">Ugra</a>.</p>
<p>Tatya Tope and Rani Laxmibai beg to differ.</p>
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		By: NM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Go to any YouTube video about Shivaji and Marathas, like this one: https://youtu.be/um0X-BbuTeo

The comments are all mostly from non-marathas, southern states, Bengal and more. 

The Maratha mindset is pan India now]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to any YouTube video about Shivaji and Marathas, like this one: <a href="https://youtu.be/um0X-BbuTeo" rel="nofollow ugc">https://youtu.be/um0X-BbuTeo</a></p>
<p>The comments are all mostly from non-marathas, southern states, Bengal and more. </p>
<p>The Maratha mindset is pan India now</p>
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		By: iamVY		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2020 18:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65703&quot;&gt;Roma Bhatt&lt;/a&gt;.

They are not outlier to any ethnic linguistic group including current one in power under Modi. The region of people in leadership is seen to be benefiting at expense of others.

As rightly pointed out this is just exploited by left to demonize people they dont see furthering their cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65703">Roma Bhatt</a>.</p>
<p>They are not outlier to any ethnic linguistic group including current one in power under Modi. The region of people in leadership is seen to be benefiting at expense of others.</p>
<p>As rightly pointed out this is just exploited by left to demonize people they dont see furthering their cause.</p>
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		By: justanotherlurker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 22:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65714&quot;&gt;Sumit&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree.

A lot of the strife can be linked back to the dispute over Mumbai city and Bombay state.
Both communities in Mumbai have pejorative stereotypes of the other. 
There is also envy of Gujju material success among Marathis]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65714">Sumit</a>.</p>
<p>I agree.</p>
<p>A lot of the strife can be linked back to the dispute over Mumbai city and Bombay state.<br />
Both communities in Mumbai have pejorative stereotypes of the other.<br />
There is also envy of Gujju material success among Marathis</p>
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		By: Sumit		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65703&quot;&gt;Roma Bhatt&lt;/a&gt;.

I dunno I never hear any negative sentiment about historic marathas. 


The Gaekwads and their descendants are still highly regarded.


Gujju dislike of post-independence maratha politics stems from this...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay_State


Basically in Mumbai they would complain about migrants from the interior regions that had only been recently added on telling Gujaratis to get out of Mumbai etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65703">Roma Bhatt</a>.</p>
<p>I dunno I never hear any negative sentiment about historic marathas. </p>
<p>The Gaekwads and their descendants are still highly regarded.</p>
<p>Gujju dislike of post-independence maratha politics stems from this&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay_State" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay_State</a></p>
<p>Basically in Mumbai they would complain about migrants from the interior regions that had only been recently added on telling Gujaratis to get out of Mumbai etc.</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65711&quot;&gt;Scorpion Eater&lt;/a&gt;.

Also the same sentiments are reciprocated by the Marathis regarding Gujjus after Independence]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65711">Scorpion Eater</a>.</p>
<p>Also the same sentiments are reciprocated by the Marathis regarding Gujjus after Independence</p>
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		By: Scorpion Eater		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;
“They are considered thugs in Gujarat (they looted us).” &lt;/i&gt;

roma, marathas may have been thugs, but at least they were *our* thugs.

you see, conquering people everywhere plunder the conquered people. empires are just extraction machines for rent seeking rulers. marathas were no different. 

the difference lies in the fact that they were authentic indians, so whatever they plundered from the land was ploughed back into the land. by contrast, mughals and awadh nawabs and hyderabad nizams sent shiploads of indian gold to their holy lands in hejaz and iraq. british famously built their industrial empire from the indian raw material.

and since marathas were hindu, they did not damage the core identity of india. by contrast muslim rulers apparently inflicted such deep wounds on the indian soul that its repercussions are felt to this day. ( in calamities like partition, indo- pak wars, hindu muslim riots and raging debates on blogs like this).]]></description>
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“They are considered thugs in Gujarat (they looted us).” </i></p>
<p>roma, marathas may have been thugs, but at least they were *our* thugs.</p>
<p>you see, conquering people everywhere plunder the conquered people. empires are just extraction machines for rent seeking rulers. marathas were no different. </p>
<p>the difference lies in the fact that they were authentic indians, so whatever they plundered from the land was ploughed back into the land. by contrast, mughals and awadh nawabs and hyderabad nizams sent shiploads of indian gold to their holy lands in hejaz and iraq. british famously built their industrial empire from the indian raw material.</p>
<p>and since marathas were hindu, they did not damage the core identity of india. by contrast muslim rulers apparently inflicted such deep wounds on the indian soul that its repercussions are felt to this day. ( in calamities like partition, indo- pak wars, hindu muslim riots and raging debates on blogs like this).</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that what happens when we swing extreme to extreme. Time to defend the Marathas.

The Marathas are seen as liberators in many regions as well. The Bhonsles in Orissa. In entire MP and Bundelkhand, parts of UP as well. The whole Marathas were only looters meme started when the marxist couldn&#039;t co-opt the Marathas in their &quot;secular&quot; pantheons because of their &quot;Hindu&quot; antecedents. It didn;t help that in addition they were co-opted by Hindu-right. 

Since the bulk of those historians were from regions who suffered their excess, they pushed this narrative, and other folks who also faced those excess, started bandwagoning on it. So eventually the only folks who stood up for Marathas were  (obviously) Marathis and Hindu right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that what happens when we swing extreme to extreme. Time to defend the Marathas.</p>
<p>The Marathas are seen as liberators in many regions as well. The Bhonsles in Orissa. In entire MP and Bundelkhand, parts of UP as well. The whole Marathas were only looters meme started when the marxist couldn&#8217;t co-opt the Marathas in their &#8220;secular&#8221; pantheons because of their &#8220;Hindu&#8221; antecedents. It didn;t help that in addition they were co-opted by Hindu-right. </p>
<p>Since the bulk of those historians were from regions who suffered their excess, they pushed this narrative, and other folks who also faced those excess, started bandwagoning on it. So eventually the only folks who stood up for Marathas were  (obviously) Marathis and Hindu right.</p>
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		By: Prats		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65703&quot;&gt;Roma Bhatt&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;They are considered thugs in Gujarat (they looted us).&quot;

Weren&#039;t the Gaekwads very progressive?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/07/07/maratha-mindset-how-to-control-your-history-and-emotions-to-grasp-the-future-on-your-terms/#comment-65703">Roma Bhatt</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;They are considered thugs in Gujarat (they looted us).&#8221;</p>
<p>Weren&#8217;t the Gaekwads very progressive?</p>
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