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		By: Milan Todorovic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milan Todorovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2020 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t know yet why Vajpayee cancelled the World Jat Congress in Belgrade in 2003.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Jat_Aryan_Foundation#World_Jat_Congress_(2003)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t know yet why Vajpayee cancelled the World Jat Congress in Belgrade in 2003.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Jat_Aryan_Foundation#World_Jat_Congress_(2003)" rel="nofollow ugc">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Jat_Aryan_Foundation#World_Jat_Congress_(2003)</a></p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saurav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 23:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Shekhar Gupta put it best. Jaswant oversaw of the BJP into a less liberal and more nativist party, AND grew stronger politically as a result of that. 

Thats the lesson for all of us]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Shekhar Gupta put it best. Jaswant oversaw of the BJP into a less liberal and more nativist party, AND grew stronger politically as a result of that. </p>
<p>Thats the lesson for all of us</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saurav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 20:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/10/09/jaswant-singh-the-last-liberal-conservative/#comment-75143&quot;&gt;Nachiketa&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Fadanvis could be categorized as a liberal Hindutvavadi like Gadkari,&quot;

TBH Considering how misogynist our politics is, his public support for his wife to have an active career , would put some of the &#039;liberal&#039; Congress folks to shame .

Debroy i think is just a non left guy. And since back in the day, everyone not on the left used to be bunch together so he just became liberal conservative (?)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/10/09/jaswant-singh-the-last-liberal-conservative/#comment-75143">Nachiketa</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fadanvis could be categorized as a liberal Hindutvavadi like Gadkari,&#8221;</p>
<p>TBH Considering how misogynist our politics is, his public support for his wife to have an active career , would put some of the &#8216;liberal&#8217; Congress folks to shame .</p>
<p>Debroy i think is just a non left guy. And since back in the day, everyone not on the left used to be bunch together so he just became liberal conservative (?)</p>
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		By: London Observer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[London Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 18:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/10/09/jaswant-singh-the-last-liberal-conservative/#comment-75145&quot;&gt;principia&lt;/a&gt;.

Liberal conservative is different from a classical liberal is different from a left liberal. Vajpayee and Rajaji were liberal conservatives. Dadabhai Naoroji, Minoo Masani and Raghuram Rajan were/are classical liberals. Nehru and Shashi Tharoor are left liberals. 
All of the above are similar (“liberal”) in the sense that they share a respect for British-style parliamentary liberal democracy. However, it is only the first category who want a role for “Indic” values in the public sphere. The first and second categories are generally pro free market, which distinguishes them from the left-liberals (aka Nehruvians in the Indian context).

Also who is Ajay Shah?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/10/09/jaswant-singh-the-last-liberal-conservative/#comment-75145">principia</a>.</p>
<p>Liberal conservative is different from a classical liberal is different from a left liberal. Vajpayee and Rajaji were liberal conservatives. Dadabhai Naoroji, Minoo Masani and Raghuram Rajan were/are classical liberals. Nehru and Shashi Tharoor are left liberals.<br />
All of the above are similar (“liberal”) in the sense that they share a respect for British-style parliamentary liberal democracy. However, it is only the first category who want a role for “Indic” values in the public sphere. The first and second categories are generally pro free market, which distinguishes them from the left-liberals (aka Nehruvians in the Indian context).</p>
<p>Also who is Ajay Shah?</p>
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		By: London Observer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[London Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 17:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/10/09/jaswant-singh-the-last-liberal-conservative/#comment-75143&quot;&gt;Nachiketa&lt;/a&gt;.

I think Bibek Debroy would qualify, although he isn’t a politician and I was more focused on politicians. Amongst public figures, someone like Hindol Sengupta is also quite interesting. As regards Fadnavis, being part of the RSS is not necessarily a disqualification. Vajpayee was in the RSS. I think temperamentally Fadnavis probably has the potential to be a Liberal Conservative, but not sure if he has enough intellectual conviction. Gadkari and Rajnath are two others who fall in a similar bucket. Interestingly both are holdouts from the Vajpayee era. I’m not sure where someone like S. Jaishankar would fall. I still see him as a bureaucrat rather than a politician, so don’t consider him relevant for this sort of analysis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/10/09/jaswant-singh-the-last-liberal-conservative/#comment-75143">Nachiketa</a>.</p>
<p>I think Bibek Debroy would qualify, although he isn’t a politician and I was more focused on politicians. Amongst public figures, someone like Hindol Sengupta is also quite interesting. As regards Fadnavis, being part of the RSS is not necessarily a disqualification. Vajpayee was in the RSS. I think temperamentally Fadnavis probably has the potential to be a Liberal Conservative, but not sure if he has enough intellectual conviction. Gadkari and Rajnath are two others who fall in a similar bucket. Interestingly both are holdouts from the Vajpayee era. I’m not sure where someone like S. Jaishankar would fall. I still see him as a bureaucrat rather than a politician, so don’t consider him relevant for this sort of analysis.</p>
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		By: thewarlock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thewarlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 12:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/asia/2020/10/10/for-good-and-ill-indias-prime-minister-is-hard-at-work

Not personally bothered by the &quot;sprouting of extra arms like a Hindu deity&quot; and pic accompanying the article. But I am bothered by hypocrisy. One would not be able to so easily get away with mockingly using religion to demean a head of state of abrahamic faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/asia/2020/10/10/for-good-and-ill-indias-prime-minister-is-hard-at-work" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.economist.com/asia/2020/10/10/for-good-and-ill-indias-prime-minister-is-hard-at-work</a></p>
<p>Not personally bothered by the &#8220;sprouting of extra arms like a Hindu deity&#8221; and pic accompanying the article. But I am bothered by hypocrisy. One would not be able to so easily get away with mockingly using religion to demean a head of state of abrahamic faith.</p>
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		By: principia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[principia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 12:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Liberal Conservative&quot; is an oxymoron. It&#039;s basically a moderate liberal. Yashwant, from everything I have read about him, seemed like genuinely gentle soul. A rare thing in politics. But let&#039;s be clear about the terminology. 

More generally, it seems to me that NDA-I had the highest concentration of highly gifted people aside from the 1991 cabinet under Narasimha Rao. Arun Shourie, Yashwant Sinha and of course Ajay Shah. These were cosmopolitan yet moderate liberals who essentially had a &#039;secular right&#039; world view. I wonder if we&#039;d ever get such a cabinet in India ever again.

I, for one, am not mourning their loss of influence. If they were successful, you&#039;d get a neoliberal, highly westernised India with just the outside trappings of Indic civilisation but an empty core.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Liberal Conservative&#8221; is an oxymoron. It&#8217;s basically a moderate liberal. Yashwant, from everything I have read about him, seemed like genuinely gentle soul. A rare thing in politics. But let&#8217;s be clear about the terminology. </p>
<p>More generally, it seems to me that NDA-I had the highest concentration of highly gifted people aside from the 1991 cabinet under Narasimha Rao. Arun Shourie, Yashwant Sinha and of course Ajay Shah. These were cosmopolitan yet moderate liberals who essentially had a &#8216;secular right&#8217; world view. I wonder if we&#8217;d ever get such a cabinet in India ever again.</p>
<p>I, for one, am not mourning their loss of influence. If they were successful, you&#8217;d get a neoliberal, highly westernised India with just the outside trappings of Indic civilisation but an empty core.</p>
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		By: Nachiketa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nachiketa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2020 11:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;below are my current thoughts not very deep i must say at the start. &lt;/em&gt;
Jay Panda yes; Not Fadanvis IMO - Fadanvis is a hardcore RSS man unlike Jaswant Sinha - The liberal qualities of Fadanvis are owing to the Liberalish polity of Maharashtra I guess. Fadanvis could be categorized as a liberal Hindutvavadi like Gadkari, but not &lt;b&gt;conservative&lt;/b&gt; in the sense of the word I guess. Congress party had some of these liberal conservatives but even they are getting purged from the party I feel - Likes of Pranav Mukherjee or even to an extent Kamal nath. 

Maybe on the intellectual side, Bibek Debroy would be a liberal-conservative?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>below are my current thoughts not very deep i must say at the start. </em><br />
Jay Panda yes; Not Fadanvis IMO &#8211; Fadanvis is a hardcore RSS man unlike Jaswant Sinha &#8211; The liberal qualities of Fadanvis are owing to the Liberalish polity of Maharashtra I guess. Fadanvis could be categorized as a liberal Hindutvavadi like Gadkari, but not <b>conservative</b> in the sense of the word I guess. Congress party had some of these liberal conservatives but even they are getting purged from the party I feel &#8211; Likes of Pranav Mukherjee or even to an extent Kamal nath. </p>
<p>Maybe on the intellectual side, Bibek Debroy would be a liberal-conservative?</p>
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