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		By: Ritesh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ritesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2022 10:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Gaurav, 
As you see, how do you propose to solve muslim extremism issue in india ? Askar Ali (ex muslim) who studied 12 years in madrasas has told very scray things that taught there about Hindus. Swati goel sharma on twitter records love jihad cases which is ongoing issue. stone pelting is issue. placing bounty of nupur is like 7th CE practice which they are doing at that too in india... what to do  ? i feel worried about my future generations. do you see any plan on doing complete population exchange in future or ghar vapsi maybe viable option..comment pls this really stresses me out. There are hardly any muslim liberals, one being arif muhaamd]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gaurav,<br />
As you see, how do you propose to solve muslim extremism issue in india ? Askar Ali (ex muslim) who studied 12 years in madrasas has told very scray things that taught there about Hindus. Swati goel sharma on twitter records love jihad cases which is ongoing issue. stone pelting is issue. placing bounty of nupur is like 7th CE practice which they are doing at that too in india&#8230; what to do  ? i feel worried about my future generations. do you see any plan on doing complete population exchange in future or ghar vapsi maybe viable option..comment pls this really stresses me out. There are hardly any muslim liberals, one being arif muhaamd</p>
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		By: thewarlock		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thewarlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2022 16:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97727&quot;&gt;Saurav&lt;/a&gt;.

Gujarat was better when it was more culturally linked with Rajasthan. Saurasthra&#062; main Gujarat. Gandhi finished the castration job. Interestingly, despite low army contribution- villages can be pretty violent and territorial disputes can definitely get ugly. Communal riots are also not as uncommon as they should be. Though, historically these issues are much much better. Lack of alcohol and relatively limited gun culture also contributes. 

Under Modi, more youths trying to join army. But recruitment is still really bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97727">Saurav</a>.</p>
<p>Gujarat was better when it was more culturally linked with Rajasthan. Saurasthra&gt; main Gujarat. Gandhi finished the castration job. Interestingly, despite low army contribution- villages can be pretty violent and territorial disputes can definitely get ugly. Communal riots are also not as uncommon as they should be. Though, historically these issues are much much better. Lack of alcohol and relatively limited gun culture also contributes. </p>
<p>Under Modi, more youths trying to join army. But recruitment is still really bad.</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saurav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2022 15:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97723&quot;&gt;Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

I mean compared to Indian Bengali, anything will be considered martial...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97723">Brown</a>.</p>
<p>I mean compared to Indian Bengali, anything will be considered martial&#8230;</p>
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		By: Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2022 13:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97700&quot;&gt;Saurav&lt;/a&gt;.

the indian bengali is an argumentative soul, where as the bangladeshi appears to be martial considering their coups etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97700">Saurav</a>.</p>
<p>the indian bengali is an argumentative soul, where as the bangladeshi appears to be martial considering their coups etc.</p>
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		By: Brown		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2022 08:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97694&quot;&gt;Saurav&lt;/a&gt;.

thimmaiyya is a coorgi. the coorgees have given us two chiefs and may other ranks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97694">Saurav</a>.</p>
<p>thimmaiyya is a coorgi. the coorgees have given us two chiefs and may other ranks.</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saurav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2022 02:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/debates-over-aurangzeb-shivaji-rana-pratap-prithviraj-chauhan-not-about-good-bad-history-but-tussles-over-memory-7949519/

“  The battle over motives in history is one, that for the life of us, we could not understand. Was the desecration of temples, whether by Mahmud of Ghazni or Aurangzeb, driven by the motives of asserting political power or economic gain as secular historians want to assert or was it an act of religious bigotry? How does one even ascertain this? Would it make a difference? Would it make a moral difference if we said the demolition of Babari Masjid was politically motivated, not religiously motivated? Or as one of our history teachers used to say, he would be even more morally offended by temple desecration if it turned out it was done for mere opportunism rather than out of genuine conviction. It was a way of challenging the unexamined assumption that somehow a deed done under the sign of earthly functionality (power or riches) made it a less loathsome act than if it were done out of piety. At least the fanatic is not destroying lightly. He may be deluded, but he has not destroyed you for a trivial reason.“

The rise of Mehta ji inner-Hindu ?]]></description>
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<p>“  The battle over motives in history is one, that for the life of us, we could not understand. Was the desecration of temples, whether by Mahmud of Ghazni or Aurangzeb, driven by the motives of asserting political power or economic gain as secular historians want to assert or was it an act of religious bigotry? How does one even ascertain this? Would it make a difference? Would it make a moral difference if we said the demolition of Babari Masjid was politically motivated, not religiously motivated? Or as one of our history teachers used to say, he would be even more morally offended by temple desecration if it turned out it was done for mere opportunism rather than out of genuine conviction. It was a way of challenging the unexamined assumption that somehow a deed done under the sign of earthly functionality (power or riches) made it a less loathsome act than if it were done out of piety. At least the fanatic is not destroying lightly. He may be deluded, but he has not destroyed you for a trivial reason.“</p>
<p>The rise of Mehta ji inner-Hindu ?</p>
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		By: Ugra		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ugra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 21:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97684&quot;&gt;GauravL&lt;/a&gt;.

Guess he is referring to Sam Manekshaw (??). But then they would be the last remnants of a powerful Indo-Iranian continuum. And fully relevant to the current discussion on Middle Age Kings fighting Islamic incursions....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97684">GauravL</a>.</p>
<p>Guess he is referring to Sam Manekshaw (??). But then they would be the last remnants of a powerful Indo-Iranian continuum. And fully relevant to the current discussion on Middle Age Kings fighting Islamic incursions&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saurav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 17:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wasn;t he from Punjab?

Its Indian army after all, a Bengali even lead it once. So no surprise there...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn;t he from Punjab?</p>
<p>Its Indian army after all, a Bengali even lead it once. So no surprise there&#8230;</p>
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		By: SK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97694&quot;&gt;Saurav&lt;/a&gt;.

Or perhaps you consider a typical Parsi quite Martial!]]></description>
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<p>Or perhaps you consider a typical Parsi quite Martial!</p>
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		By: Saurav		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saurav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2022 15:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97675&quot;&gt;thewarlock&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, stereotypes exist for a reason. Plus the Brits ruled us so long, because they did figure out the best.

Ironically, they were also the reason why martial theory was debunked as well. Provided fire arms and training to less-martial ethnicities, lead to the flattening of martial-ness of all ethnicities.  Just because it became true post the British, does not mean it was true before that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2022/05/27/episode-11-palas-prathiharas-and-early-islamic-invasions/#comment-97675">thewarlock</a>.</p>
<p>Well, stereotypes exist for a reason. Plus the Brits ruled us so long, because they did figure out the best.</p>
<p>Ironically, they were also the reason why martial theory was debunked as well. Provided fire arms and training to less-martial ethnicities, lead to the flattening of martial-ness of all ethnicities.  Just because it became true post the British, does not mean it was true before that.</p>
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