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		By: S Qureishi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Qureishi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 01:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-109082&quot;&gt;Ghazi&lt;/a&gt;.

Here is Ghazi with the &quot;us Iranic&quot; claim (is it a boast?) as I mentioned in my previous post. Not sure when we ever had a &quot;war of equal measure&quot; in the past, but don&#039;t think it&#039;s ever happening in the future since Afghanistan is just a Pakistani frontier at this point. Troubled, but more or less neutralized.  

Arabs prefer chicken over lamb. Why would anyone take them seriously over what meat is better? It&#039;s hilarious you take them seriously but then I wouldn&#039;t take you seriously either.  Cattle, Deer, Bison, Horse.. these are the only top tier meats. Lamb and pork, don&#039;t come close.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-109082">Ghazi</a>.</p>
<p>Here is Ghazi with the &#8220;us Iranic&#8221; claim (is it a boast?) as I mentioned in my previous post. Not sure when we ever had a &#8220;war of equal measure&#8221; in the past, but don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s ever happening in the future since Afghanistan is just a Pakistani frontier at this point. Troubled, but more or less neutralized.  </p>
<p>Arabs prefer chicken over lamb. Why would anyone take them seriously over what meat is better? It&#8217;s hilarious you take them seriously but then I wouldn&#8217;t take you seriously either.  Cattle, Deer, Bison, Horse.. these are the only top tier meats. Lamb and pork, don&#8217;t come close.</p>
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		By: Ghazi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 18:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-108920&quot;&gt;S Qureishi&lt;/a&gt;.

And yet Afghans consuming onion or tomatoes would absolutely decimate the pakistani in a war of equal measure, we&#039;ve done so for centuries prior to the modern era before the British armed you. And it was the &quot;daal-eating&quot; sikhs who were able to go to toe to toe with us among you panjabis, not your various red meat eaters lol. Reality is the stereotype comes from the daal maash you people still eat to this day, not some Ranjit era. You people love daal so much, you&#039;ve even created abominations like dal ghosht (which is an Iranic word btw - indicative that you learned the practices of meat-eating that you are so proud of now originally from us Iranics).

Btw ask any Arab (I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll meet at least one while working away in the UAE or Saudi) which meat is superior, and they will indeed answer &quot;lamb&quot;, not &quot;real read meat&quot; beef lol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-108920">S Qureishi</a>.</p>
<p>And yet Afghans consuming onion or tomatoes would absolutely decimate the pakistani in a war of equal measure, we&#8217;ve done so for centuries prior to the modern era before the British armed you. And it was the &#8220;daal-eating&#8221; sikhs who were able to go to toe to toe with us among you panjabis, not your various red meat eaters lol. Reality is the stereotype comes from the daal maash you people still eat to this day, not some Ranjit era. You people love daal so much, you&#8217;ve even created abominations like dal ghosht (which is an Iranic word btw &#8211; indicative that you learned the practices of meat-eating that you are so proud of now originally from us Iranics).</p>
<p>Btw ask any Arab (I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll meet at least one while working away in the UAE or Saudi) which meat is superior, and they will indeed answer &#8220;lamb&#8221;, not &#8220;real read meat&#8221; beef lol.</p>
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		By: Chahamana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chahamana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2024 05:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-108926&quot;&gt;Bhumiputra&lt;/a&gt;.

That might be a more complex issue than red meat consumption. Prevalent incest and all, you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-108926">Bhumiputra</a>.</p>
<p>That might be a more complex issue than red meat consumption. Prevalent incest and all, you know.</p>
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		By: Bhumiputra		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Curious to know if increased red meat consumption comes with negative side effects? Found this meta &lt;a href=&quot;https://bmcnephrol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12882-018-1072-5&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;noopener nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;study&lt;/a&gt; which shows that PK has highest chronic kidney disease incidence  at ~21% whereas India and Nepal are at ~10%. The PK studies do have a selection bias of minimum age &#062; 40.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious to know if increased red meat consumption comes with negative side effects? Found this meta <a href="https://bmcnephrol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12882-018-1072-5" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">study</a> which shows that PK has highest chronic kidney disease incidence  at ~21% whereas India and Nepal are at ~10%. The PK studies do have a selection bias of minimum age &gt; 40.</p>
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		By: M. Emad		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M. Emad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2024 22:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;span&gt;1971 Bangladesh Liberation Struggle showed that Darpook P0rkistan Army/ Air Force/ Navy morale would not stand more than a couple of hard blows at the right time and place.&lt;/span&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span>1971 Bangladesh Liberation Struggle showed that Darpook P0rkistan Army/ Air Force/ Navy morale would not stand more than a couple of hard blows at the right time and place.</span></p>
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		By: S Qureishi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S Qureishi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2024 16:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-108918&quot;&gt;X.T.M&lt;/a&gt;.

This is a common Afghan belief that carries over from Ranjit Singh&#039;s era about stereotypes about (Sikh) Punjabis...  Fact is, neither are Pakistanis poorer than Afghans, nor do they eat less meat or get less protein than Afghans. The regular Afghan can crave Kabuli Pulao and meat, but what they can afford to eat mostly is naan with onions or tomatoes used as saalan. (and these too they import from Pakistan)

But Pakistanis eats beef (real read meat) rather than lamb or sheep (weak meat). Pakistanis also drink a shit load of milk, something that the Afghans don&#039;t (or rather cannot) do. And yes daal is a better vegetarian side dish in Pakistan than eating onions in Afghanistan.

I disagree that Afghans look up to India. If you mention if they are part of South Asia and see how they get offended. Mention that they are &#039;Iranic&#039; and see how happy they get. The recent India love is simply a case of &quot;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-108918">X.T.M</a>.</p>
<p>This is a common Afghan belief that carries over from Ranjit Singh&#8217;s era about stereotypes about (Sikh) Punjabis&#8230;  Fact is, neither are Pakistanis poorer than Afghans, nor do they eat less meat or get less protein than Afghans. The regular Afghan can crave Kabuli Pulao and meat, but what they can afford to eat mostly is naan with onions or tomatoes used as saalan. (and these too they import from Pakistan)</p>
<p>But Pakistanis eats beef (real read meat) rather than lamb or sheep (weak meat). Pakistanis also drink a shit load of milk, something that the Afghans don&#8217;t (or rather cannot) do. And yes daal is a better vegetarian side dish in Pakistan than eating onions in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>I disagree that Afghans look up to India. If you mention if they are part of South Asia and see how they get offended. Mention that they are &#8216;Iranic&#8217; and see how happy they get. The recent India love is simply a case of &#8220;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&#8221;.</p>
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		By: X.T.M		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2024 11:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-108912&quot;&gt;S Qureishi&lt;/a&gt;.

my Afghan friend was telling me that:

&quot;We’re all about the meat and qabali pilau. In fact, they call Pakistani’s daal khor (dal eaters). It’s seen as being poor&quot;

it&#039;s interesting though Afghans &#038; Middle Easterners tend to look down on Pakistanis but not Indians, I think because India is now seen as a increasingly wealthy and successful nation..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2024/02/22/do-pakistanis-eat-this-much-red-meat/#comment-108912">S Qureishi</a>.</p>
<p>my Afghan friend was telling me that:</p>
<p>&#8220;We’re all about the meat and qabali pilau. In fact, they call Pakistani’s daal khor (dal eaters). It’s seen as being poor&#8221;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s interesting though Afghans &amp; Middle Easterners tend to look down on Pakistanis but not Indians, I think because India is now seen as a increasingly wealthy and successful nation..</p>
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		By: S Qureishi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 14:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People who can afford meat in Pakistan will primarily eat meat, and red meat has been historically cheaper in Pakistan than chicken. The variety of red meat also differs, cattle is more common in the plains and goats more common in the highlands. This is why you find more beef consumption in Punjab and Sindh.. whereas lamb/goat is more commonly eaten in KPK and Baluchistan. 

Vegetarian options would usually only entail &#039;daal&#039; ( I don&#039;t consider this vegetarian) and chickpeas/chholay (once again, this is grain not vegetarian). Vegetables are mostly eaten as a side dish or skipped. Meat is usually the center piece of all dishes, like western cuisine, and it&#039;s paired with naan/roti or rice + daal.  

Like with any diverse country, there are hundreds of regional varieties and vegetarian dishes but they rarely show up on the menu in majority of the restaurants, which indirectly shows that these are consumed as budget items but not desired when eating out. 

The menu is quite typical of a Pakistani wedding, if you look at the brochure of the any catering package for 100-500 people, you will see 8 different meat options divided between red and white, and maybe 1 daal/cholay addon and 1 or 2 vegetable item that mostly comes as an addon but is always leftover at the end of the wedding. I think Indian vegetarian dishes are far superior than anything Pakistan has.. cuisine is where the difference in India and Pakistan is quite pronounced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who can afford meat in Pakistan will primarily eat meat, and red meat has been historically cheaper in Pakistan than chicken. The variety of red meat also differs, cattle is more common in the plains and goats more common in the highlands. This is why you find more beef consumption in Punjab and Sindh.. whereas lamb/goat is more commonly eaten in KPK and Baluchistan. </p>
<p>Vegetarian options would usually only entail &#8216;daal&#8217; ( I don&#8217;t consider this vegetarian) and chickpeas/chholay (once again, this is grain not vegetarian). Vegetables are mostly eaten as a side dish or skipped. Meat is usually the center piece of all dishes, like western cuisine, and it&#8217;s paired with naan/roti or rice + daal.  </p>
<p>Like with any diverse country, there are hundreds of regional varieties and vegetarian dishes but they rarely show up on the menu in majority of the restaurants, which indirectly shows that these are consumed as budget items but not desired when eating out. </p>
<p>The menu is quite typical of a Pakistani wedding, if you look at the brochure of the any catering package for 100-500 people, you will see 8 different meat options divided between red and white, and maybe 1 daal/cholay addon and 1 or 2 vegetable item that mostly comes as an addon but is always leftover at the end of the wedding. I think Indian vegetarian dishes are far superior than anything Pakistan has.. cuisine is where the difference in India and Pakistan is quite pronounced.</p>
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