I feel like writing a post now haha

I do not see the H-M issues in India as necessarily and mainly result of history (partition and medieval barbarism).

I think we miss the wood for the trees when we forget that UK for instance will soon have issues between natives and recent immigrant Muslims as soon as Muslim propertion rises beyond a low minority.

When 85% of the people are changing their culture embracing modernity (more or less across castes and tribes) and only a small fraction of the remaining are doing so. It’s bound to create distance. People have seen regression in dress codes within their lifetimes. Especially in regions like Konkan and Kerala.
It’s very common seeing a muslim family where the oldest lady isn’t wearing the full veil but the younger ones do.
You can’t have communities mixing if mixing is unequal wrt genders. There is no trust.

It’s the Saudi dollars from the 80s and 90s come to fruition.

I would write in detail on this at some pt I reckon. But I don’t agree with Mahmud Ghazni broke Somnath and Hindus are avenging it. Or Sins of partition or Pakistan Provocation. Ofcourse all these compound the issue

That’s ridiculous Kabir. I will delete such answers. There are 3 very comprehensive posts.

This is very lazy and offensive thinking. Never do this again

All I’m saying is that accusations of disloyalty lead to a slippery slope.

The Nazis accused German Jews of being disloyal to Germany and that led to concentration camps and to the gas chambers.

I’m obviously not calling you a Nazi. This is just a historical example of where such reasoning can lead.

Yes but that is a bit disingenuous; minorities in Pakistan simple do not carry the weight that minorities (especially the Muslim one) does in India..

It’s not a discussion you can control

Of course, minorities in total are only about 4% of Pakistan.

My point was that presuming that citizens are disloyal to a state simply because of their religion is a slippery slope. It’s not an argument I am willing to entertain.

Pakistani Hindus are not comparable to India’s Muslims; especially in size and quantum.

Also Hinduphobia is fairly normalised in Pakistan.

I do believe it is problematic to suspect–without evidence– Indian Muslims of being loyal to Pakistan. Most of the Indian Muslims I’ve met in my life are loyal citizens of India. I wouldn’t expect them to espouse Pakistan’s case in the Kashmir conflict for example. Of course Kashmiris (who are technically “Indian Muslims”) have a different narrative than that of the Indian state. But,even then, this narrative is not necessarily Pakistan’s narrative.

It is equally problematic for Pakistanis to suspect that Pakistani Hindus are loyal to India. By and large, they are not. They are patriotic citizens of Pakistan.

Planning, Propaganda, and Mobilization by the Muslim League before ‘Direct Action Day’ – https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianHistory/comments/1msradv/planning_propaganda_and_mobilization_by_the/