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		<title>The Ideal and the Practical &#8212; the Practice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Cameron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2019 17:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Posting a quote that did not fit a comment thread, the author reads Chuang Tzu's cook story as showing that Lao Tzu's ideal of emptiness leaves room for practical play, a way to think about the impracticality of ideals.]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d written a response to @AnAn and included a quote from the Chuang Tzu&#8217;s chapter on <a href="http://background.uchicago.edu/~whu/acoustic/quote.html">Lord Wen-hui and what he learned from his Cook Ting</a>, and wanted to throw in the following DoubleQuote &#8212; but graphics seem to be discouraged in the Comment sections here, so I&#8217;ve opened this post for the purpose:</p>
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<p>The thing is, Lao Tzu offers us the ideal statement, formulated in terms of an impenetrable absence of space, and an absence of substance to the point of non-existence &#8212; while Chuang Tzu, peering over Lord Wen-hui&#8217;s shoulder right there in Cook Ting&#8217;s kitchen, offers us the same insight, couched in terms of there being &#8220;spaces between the joints&#8221; and his knife having &#8220;really no thickness&#8221; &#8212; Chuang Tzu&#8217;s measureless insight penetrates Lao Tzu&#8217;s impenetrable absolutes to show us there&#8217;s room for play there &#8212; &#8220;room &#8212; more than enough for the blade to play about in&#8221;.</p>
<p>If we bear these two versions of the same idea &#8212; formulated ideally and in practical terms by the two principle philosopher-poets of the Taoist school &#8212; in mind when our thoughts run up against the impracticality of an ideal, we may find, like Cook Ting, that we too have room enough room to play in.</p>
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