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		By: bharat		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20489</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2018 09:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20117&quot;&gt;bharat&lt;/a&gt;.

The writers at wire, scroll are ofcourse on the left, most from humanities are. They do not even show the data, the scandal of modern humanities is that rather than to show the data and then make an argument, they make the argument first, hide the data . And if data is revealed, find a way to explain it away . If one is to believe the left, they are always in the right on every single issue for all time to come. They are never wrong, never will be wrong and if something doesnt work out, its due to those bad people. It is unfalsifiable worldview, not different from religion. Noam chomsky be their prophet. The guy was explaining away genocide by khmer rouge, engaging in whataboutry of east timor when one speaks of khmer rouge. Engages in conspiracy theory by saying soviet union is state capitalism.

Hence, the likes of vs naipaul , bernard lewis were more prescient than anyone on the left on Islam in last 50 years. Because they predicted either on past data or through what they saw. While chomsky finally conceded on islamic extremism with regards to ISIS, still blames the west for most of it though. But atleast its the first time I saw him admit to it in a long time since zia ulhaq.


In order to take someone seriously one first has to look at integrity, of honestly accepting that they were in the wrong. They dont, I saw naipaul change his views on India with time but left continues same of crap as they did 30 years ago. No change. I remember reading prabhat patnaik, a member of cpi in early 2000&#039;s writing an article in defense of nehruvian economy stating, no one ever showed why the theory was wrong. To the left, it seems the empirical fact that something doesnt work isnt good enough to abandon an idea. That&#039;s religion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20117">bharat</a>.</p>
<p>The writers at wire, scroll are ofcourse on the left, most from humanities are. They do not even show the data, the scandal of modern humanities is that rather than to show the data and then make an argument, they make the argument first, hide the data . And if data is revealed, find a way to explain it away . If one is to believe the left, they are always in the right on every single issue for all time to come. They are never wrong, never will be wrong and if something doesnt work out, its due to those bad people. It is unfalsifiable worldview, not different from religion. Noam chomsky be their prophet. The guy was explaining away genocide by khmer rouge, engaging in whataboutry of east timor when one speaks of khmer rouge. Engages in conspiracy theory by saying soviet union is state capitalism.</p>
<p>Hence, the likes of vs naipaul , bernard lewis were more prescient than anyone on the left on Islam in last 50 years. Because they predicted either on past data or through what they saw. While chomsky finally conceded on islamic extremism with regards to ISIS, still blames the west for most of it though. But atleast its the first time I saw him admit to it in a long time since zia ulhaq.</p>
<p>In order to take someone seriously one first has to look at integrity, of honestly accepting that they were in the wrong. They dont, I saw naipaul change his views on India with time but left continues same of crap as they did 30 years ago. No change. I remember reading prabhat patnaik, a member of cpi in early 2000&#8217;s writing an article in defense of nehruvian economy stating, no one ever showed why the theory was wrong. To the left, it seems the empirical fact that something doesnt work isnt good enough to abandon an idea. That&#8217;s religion.</p>
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		By: Kabir		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20159</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 06:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20153&quot;&gt;Razib Khan&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL! &quot;Caucasian intelligentsia&quot;-- What a conspiracy theory!  Whoever one disagrees with has been brainwashed.]]></description>
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<p>LOL! &#8220;Caucasian intelligentsia&#8221;&#8211; What a conspiracy theory!  Whoever one disagrees with has been brainwashed.</p>
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		By: Razib Khan		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20152</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20134&quot;&gt;AnAn&lt;/a&gt;.

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<p>kawkayjhun</p>
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		By: Razib Khan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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kawkayjhun]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20134">AnAn</a>.</p>
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		By: Kabir		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20151</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20134&quot;&gt;AnAn&lt;/a&gt;.

Arundhati Roy is much more credible than a random person on the Internet.  You don&#039;t have to like her, but she is one of India&#039;s greatest intellectuals and she speaks truth to Hindutva.]]></description>
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<p>Arundhati Roy is much more credible than a random person on the Internet.  You don&#8217;t have to like her, but she is one of India&#8217;s greatest intellectuals and she speaks truth to Hindutva.</p>
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		By: Kabir		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20150</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20118&quot;&gt;Kabir&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Right and left mean nothing at all&quot;-- We will have to disagree.   I have zero sympathy for the right-wing (in whatever country). Like most liberal arts people, I am firmly center-left in my convictions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20118">Kabir</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Right and left mean nothing at all&#8221;&#8211; We will have to disagree.   I have zero sympathy for the right-wing (in whatever country). Like most liberal arts people, I am firmly center-left in my convictions.</p>
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		By: Kabir		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20149</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 04:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20121&quot;&gt;Kabir&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Two states for two peoples&quot; is the international consensus. But since Israel is making that impossible, I am fine with one secular state which belongs to all its citizens. That state would have a Palestinian majority and would probably be renamed &quot;Palestine&quot;.  This would be the end of the Zionist experiment.  Israel&#039;s best chance to avoid that is the Two-State Solution. 

&quot;Jewish and Democratic&quot; is an oxymoron.  Israel can be a &quot;Jewish&quot; state within the 1967 lines or a democratic state from the river to the sea.   Currently, it is a democratic state for Jews and an apartheid state for Palestinians.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20121">Kabir</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Two states for two peoples&#8221; is the international consensus. But since Israel is making that impossible, I am fine with one secular state which belongs to all its citizens. That state would have a Palestinian majority and would probably be renamed &#8220;Palestine&#8221;.  This would be the end of the Zionist experiment.  Israel&#8217;s best chance to avoid that is the Two-State Solution. </p>
<p>&#8220;Jewish and Democratic&#8221; is an oxymoron.  Israel can be a &#8220;Jewish&#8221; state within the 1967 lines or a democratic state from the river to the sea.   Currently, it is a democratic state for Jews and an apartheid state for Palestinians.</p>
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		By: Kabir		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20148</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 03:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20121&quot;&gt;Kabir&lt;/a&gt;.

Anan, 

&quot;Love melts all&quot;-- Please stop with the ridiculous cliches.   &quot;Love&quot; is not helpful against Occupation and settler-colonialism. 

Israel is not Palestine&#039;s &quot;sister&quot; but an Occupying power which has stolen Palestine from the natives of the land--Palestinian Arabs.   The least Israel can do is withdraw to the Green Line, which is its only legitimate border according to International Law.  I understand today&#039;s Israelis are not responsible for the fact that the colonial power allowed a &quot;Jewish homeland&quot; in a land with a majority-Arab population, with devastating consequences.  Still, Palestinians are entitled to a state on  10% of their historic homeland.  

You may believe in &quot;praying and understanding&quot;. I don&#039;t think this is an effective way to remove the Occupation.  BDS is much more practical.]]></description>
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<p>Anan, </p>
<p>&#8220;Love melts all&#8221;&#8211; Please stop with the ridiculous cliches.   &#8220;Love&#8221; is not helpful against Occupation and settler-colonialism. </p>
<p>Israel is not Palestine&#8217;s &#8220;sister&#8221; but an Occupying power which has stolen Palestine from the natives of the land&#8211;Palestinian Arabs.   The least Israel can do is withdraw to the Green Line, which is its only legitimate border according to International Law.  I understand today&#8217;s Israelis are not responsible for the fact that the colonial power allowed a &#8220;Jewish homeland&#8221; in a land with a majority-Arab population, with devastating consequences.  Still, Palestinians are entitled to a state on  10% of their historic homeland.  </p>
<p>You may believe in &#8220;praying and understanding&#8221;. I don&#8217;t think this is an effective way to remove the Occupation.  BDS is much more practical.</p>
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		By: AnAn		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20135</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 01:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20118&quot;&gt;Kabir&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Right wing parties want to impose their visions of society on others, while left-wing parties believe in individual rights and in freedom for marginalized minorities&quot;

Right and left mean nothing at all. Eastern philosophy and European Enlightenment (inspired by eastern philosophy) &quot;believe in individual rights and in freedom for marginalized minorities.&quot;]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;Right wing parties want to impose their visions of society on others, while left-wing parties believe in individual rights and in freedom for marginalized minorities&#8221;</p>
<p>Right and left mean nothing at all. Eastern philosophy and European Enlightenment (inspired by eastern philosophy) &#8220;believe in individual rights and in freedom for marginalized minorities.&#8221;</p>
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		By: AnAn		</title>
		<link>https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20134</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2018 01:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.brownpundits.com/2018/08/28/open-thread-12/#comment-20119&quot;&gt;Kabir&lt;/a&gt;.

Arundhati Roy knows little to nothing about India, Buddhism/Jainism/Sikhism/Hinduism/Sufism/twelverism/sixerism/Zorastrianism/Judaism/Christianity/religion/spirituality/life. She also knows next to nothing about minorities or darkies. Her mind has been colonized by the caucasion intelligentsia and post modernism. She has sold out.]]></description>
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<p>Arundhati Roy knows little to nothing about India, Buddhism/Jainism/Sikhism/Hinduism/Sufism/twelverism/sixerism/Zorastrianism/Judaism/Christianity/religion/spirituality/life. She also knows next to nothing about minorities or darkies. Her mind has been colonized by the caucasion intelligentsia and post modernism. She has sold out.</p>
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