Shoaib Yousef is a IMMAF gold medalist which is ranked high in the amateur leagues and has two wins on his pro record
Muhammad Waseem was literally WBC champion and ranked top 10 in his weight class if he was funded properly by Mayweather promotions.
I never see Indians win in Europe even in the amateur leagues
The pro leagues need sponsorships without a doubt.
Also IBO champion is considered a legit championship but its not WBC, IBF level however the IBF champion Vernon Frost who held the WBC champion and was ring magazine rated at the time called out Jawaid Khaliq but his camp didnt promote the guy properly. He had 1 loss and defended his title 7 times. Even Naseem Hamed said Jawaid had the potential to make it with the right promotions.
Mohammad subhaan right now is 17 year old boxer right now who is being asked to fly to America and train gleesons gym. The same gym who trained mike tyson and miguel cotto in the past.
In reality Shoaib Yousef or Muhammad Waseem should train in America

The divisions are filling up with Pakistanis nowadays. They dont have a family tradition of boxers or a great domestic circuit like Mexico or Cuba does. However within all these boxers, you will get 1 exceptional top 10 fighter. There is thousands of Mexican bums on boxrec but weeding out bums helps find an Eric morales here and there.

They’re plenty of Pakiatani boxers coming up in the ranks, Muhammad Waseem is a WBC champion and Kash Ali is doing great in his division too. Also the Amir Khan tweet with his wife and anthony josuhua was a dumb hoax and everybody knows it. The two never met and Anthony wouldn’t want a toothpick like faryal who is literally 2 ft shorter and smaller than Anthony . It was a neighborhood troll messaging khan. This is why the two even got back to together a week after separating. Amir Khan is worth millions of dollars and was ranked 9th pound for pound in his division. He can get whatever female he wants on planet earth if he knew faryal was cheating.

Biradri (Clan) is a Punjabi thing, but it has some impact on broader areas as well. Pahari as said, Mountain thing. Not just NW, even normal North like Ladakhi, Uttarkhand. So generic Mountain

Mirpuris,OTOH are both.

“South Indians = Tamil Brahmins in particular, and other South Indian Brahmins”

Periyar just rolled in his grave

*just

Have some shame dude, lust look at the records of the mirpuri guys you posted. Furqan Cheema, Addy Khan, Junaid Cheema, Zubair Khan etc etc. Their stats suck! the guys they beat occasionally had even pathetic records. This is not stuff to be proud of every MMA gym has people like this. There is nothing special or remarkable about them that you are pawning as incredible athleticism.

birdaris are clans of Punjab. Haryana was part of greater Punjab. It split because Hindus were ok with Hindi and Sikhs wanted punjabi and their own majority state so Indian punjab was split.

I’m a reader of this blog but not generally a poster, and many of these terms confuse me too. When I grew as an Indian-American, I only knew of three castes. (Obviously, that was conditioned by my background, and I know that isn’t the totality)

South Indians = Tamil Brahmins in particular, and other South Indian Brahmins
Non-Brahmins = Other South Indians
North Indians = All Other Indians

is the original poster saying jats have affinities to ppl to the west, but not to western UP ppl just to the east? and terms like biradari are only for ppl in the west? are khatris biradari too?

bengalis don’t have tribes or clans that i know of so this is all confusing to me. and east bengalis don’t have caste/jati structure either