This is unhinged. Especially since you keep bringing up the notion of Kashmir’s secession from India, without any Indian commentator threatening to nuke Pakistan for the offense. (I haven’t followed posts here closely the past year, but I recall conversation threads from years past,)
I’m not the one who determines Pakistan’s nuclear strategy.
We have put it on the record that any existential threat to Pakistan–and loss of territorial integrity is certainly such an existential threat– will bring the nukes into play. If India cuts off our water, the nukes will come into play.
The nuclear strategy is out in the public record for those who care.
My simple point is that this entire post is in bad taste (to say the least).
If you wouldn’t make a post like this showing let’s say Kashmir as independent of India, than you shouldn’t make a post depicting any land being taken away from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
It serves no purpose except to hurt Pakistani sentiments and bring out the anti-Pakistan trolls.
The territorial integrity of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is not up for negotiation.
You need to get off your high horse about the “Disputed Territory” thing. Just because that original dispute happened right after Partition, and the Indian government acknowledged it as such back in 1948 without thinking too much about where things were headed doesn’t mean you can continue to use it as a cudgel.
Lots of water has passed under the bridge since 1948. Pakistan has attempted to invade India several times since then, organized state-sponsored terror against India, fomented secession not just in Kashmir but also in Punjab (which was not “Disputed” after 1947). So stuff changes. Indians do not consider Kashmir “Disputed” at this point because Indians are VERY angry with what the Pakistani state has been doing since independence.
If, through all of these developments, you still hold on to this reed of an argument that Kashmir is up for debate as a “Disputed Territory”, then many Indians will feel that they can newly take up the cause of Balochi independence too, which Indians had no hand in initiating or fomenting, but just for reasons of schadenfreude. The era for referring to territories as “Disputed” didn’t end in 1948, because inter-state violence and terror did not end that year.
I say all this respectfully, as someone who (I think) has been quite fair in my conversations with you on this website.
“Indians do not consider Kashmir ‘Disputed'”– It frankly does not matter what Indians think or not. According to International Law, Kashmir is Disputed Territory. It remains subject to UN Resolutions and it will always remain subject to those Resolutions. India cannot unilaterally cancel this. The “Line of Control” is by definition not an international border but a ceasefire line. This is why the entire world refers to “India-administered” and “Pakistan-administered” Kashmir.
You can take the Indian nationalist line that Kashmir is an “integral part” of India. That’s your prerogative. But Pakistan will never accept this. For us, it remains Disputed Territory.
Balochistan is unequivocally a province of Pakistan. There has never been any dispute about this. Balochistan is as much a part of Pakistan as Tamil Nadu is part of India.
For that matter, East Pakistan was unequivocally a part of Pakistan. There was no dispute. Yet it didn’t stop India from breaking Pakistan.
But times have changed. Pakistan is now a nuclear power. We will not lose an inch of the Islamic Republic’s territory. That is an absolute red line.
You ignored everything I said about the actions of the Pakistani state and kept harping on your “Disputed Territory” position. That’s not a good-faith argument.
There is nothing called “International Law”……because there is nobody to enforce such a law. Countries agree to abide by conventions (like the Geneva Convention). UN resolutions are such conventions too, but the UN’s credibility to settle controversial cross-nation problems has been in doubt for most of its existence because it’s ended up being a pawn of the permanent SC member states.
When the Indian government allowed Kashmir to be called a disputed territory by the UN in the aftermath of the 1947-48 war, Nehru and cohort assumed that the UN (then hardly 3 years old) would play fair. Heck, he assumed Pakistan would play fair. Those things have not come to pass.
Given what the US government has been pulling off recently, my belief is that the UN itself as an organization is not long for the world. It survived much longer than the League of Nations did, but every such institution has an expiration date.
On East Pakistan: India wouldn’t have cared about it one war or the other if your army hadn’t committed a genocide there, leading to millions of refugees flowing into India, causing massive instability. That called for a decisive military action in the region, which the Indian military had the competence to pull off. The fact that the former East Pakistanis chose to secede from Pakistan and create a new country was none of our concern. It was entirely their choice, and the fault for that lies in Pakistan.
Frankly, it doesn’t matter what you or other Indians think. You are free to continue believing that Kashmir is an “integral part” of India. In the end, you are a rando on the Internet.
Pandit Nehru promised the Kashmiri people would not be joined to India at gunpoint. But we all know what happened in the end. The Hindu Dogra king had no moral authority to choose anything for Kashmiri Muslims.
The position of the entire international community is clear. That’s why they speak of “Indian ADMINISTERED Kashmir”. No one believes it’s truly a part of India–no matter what your government’s position is. It is a Disputed Territory that is in India’s hands pending the resolution of the dispute. I’m getting tired of repeating myself that the LOC is a ceasefire line and not an international border.
Now, it’s a different matter that since both India and Pakistan are nuclear powers, neither can succeed in taking territory held by the other. But that doesn’t mean the dispute ceases to exist.
On East Pakistan: Whatever problems existed between West Pakistan and East Pakistan, India was happy to fan the flames and dismember Pakistan. We will never forget that and never forgive that.
However, now we are a nuclear power and India’s proxies in Balochistan will not succeed in taking one inch of the Islamic Republic.
Feel free to have the last word. This is rapidly becoming repetitive.
relates the term “Baloch” to Meluḫḫa**, the name by which the Indus Valley civilisation is believed to have been known to the Sumerians
Meluḫḫa disappears from the Mesopotamian records at the beginning of the second millennium BCE
** Meluḫḫa Mleccha is a Sanskrit term referring to those of an incomprehensible speech, foreigners or invaders deemed distinct and separate from the Vedic tribes
Asko Parpola relates the name Meluḫḫa to Indo-Aryan words mleccha (Sanskrit) and milakkha/milakkhu (Pali) etc., which DO NOT have an Indo-European etymology even though they were used to refer to non-Aryan people. Taking them to be proto-Dravidian in origin, he interprets the term as meaning either a proper name milu-akam (from which tamilakam was derived when the Indus people migrated south) or melu-akam, meaning “high country”, a possible reference to Balochistani high lands
So are Present day Balochs a mixture of the Brown Peoples of Iranian Plateau Hunter gatherers many of whom form the majority of Indus Valley Civilization DNA
Anyway the article header is NOT REPRESENTATIVE of Baloch peoples. See photo below
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so……….you are saying Pak phaaaujj will fight the Baloch by……..nuking itself?
This is unhinged. Especially since you keep bringing up the notion of Kashmir’s secession from India, without any Indian commentator threatening to nuke Pakistan for the offense. (I haven’t followed posts here closely the past year, but I recall conversation threads from years past,)
I’m not the one who determines Pakistan’s nuclear strategy.
We have put it on the record that any existential threat to Pakistan–and loss of territorial integrity is certainly such an existential threat– will bring the nukes into play. If India cuts off our water, the nukes will come into play.
The nuclear strategy is out in the public record for those who care.
Territorial integrity is an absolute red line.
“Naqvi holds India responsible for spate of attacks in Balochistan: ISPR says 92 terrorists killed”
https://www.brownpundits.com/2026/01/31/baluchistan/
We will deal with these Indian proxies with a firm hand. Do not attempt to mess with Pak Fauj.
Calm immediately pls
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Kalat is not Kashmir
Khalistan wouldn’t be nearly as big as Baluchistan.
Not that I’m advocating any redrawing of borders.
My simple point is that this entire post is in bad taste (to say the least).
If you wouldn’t make a post like this showing let’s say Kashmir as independent of India, than you shouldn’t make a post depicting any land being taken away from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
It serves no purpose except to hurt Pakistani sentiments and bring out the anti-Pakistan trolls.
The territorial integrity of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is not up for negotiation.
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Why is it OK for someone to write about the “liberation” of Balochistan and not for me to write about the “liberation” of Kashmir?
Kashmir is a Disputed Territory. Balochistan is unequivocally part of Pakistan.
You need to get off your high horse about the “Disputed Territory” thing. Just because that original dispute happened right after Partition, and the Indian government acknowledged it as such back in 1948 without thinking too much about where things were headed doesn’t mean you can continue to use it as a cudgel.
Lots of water has passed under the bridge since 1948. Pakistan has attempted to invade India several times since then, organized state-sponsored terror against India, fomented secession not just in Kashmir but also in Punjab (which was not “Disputed” after 1947). So stuff changes. Indians do not consider Kashmir “Disputed” at this point because Indians are VERY angry with what the Pakistani state has been doing since independence.
If, through all of these developments, you still hold on to this reed of an argument that Kashmir is up for debate as a “Disputed Territory”, then many Indians will feel that they can newly take up the cause of Balochi independence too, which Indians had no hand in initiating or fomenting, but just for reasons of schadenfreude. The era for referring to territories as “Disputed” didn’t end in 1948, because inter-state violence and terror did not end that year.
I say all this respectfully, as someone who (I think) has been quite fair in my conversations with you on this website.
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Kabir is right; Baluch independence is a non-starter.
I posted the map for different reasons, which I will write on.
I’ve removed 27 of BB’s comments since he just kept pushing the line. He knows the rules.
“Indians do not consider Kashmir ‘Disputed'”– It frankly does not matter what Indians think or not. According to International Law, Kashmir is Disputed Territory. It remains subject to UN Resolutions and it will always remain subject to those Resolutions. India cannot unilaterally cancel this. The “Line of Control” is by definition not an international border but a ceasefire line. This is why the entire world refers to “India-administered” and “Pakistan-administered” Kashmir.
You can take the Indian nationalist line that Kashmir is an “integral part” of India. That’s your prerogative. But Pakistan will never accept this. For us, it remains Disputed Territory.
Balochistan is unequivocally a province of Pakistan. There has never been any dispute about this. Balochistan is as much a part of Pakistan as Tamil Nadu is part of India.
For that matter, East Pakistan was unequivocally a part of Pakistan. There was no dispute. Yet it didn’t stop India from breaking Pakistan.
But times have changed. Pakistan is now a nuclear power. We will not lose an inch of the Islamic Republic’s territory. That is an absolute red line.
You ignored everything I said about the actions of the Pakistani state and kept harping on your “Disputed Territory” position. That’s not a good-faith argument.
There is nothing called “International Law”……because there is nobody to enforce such a law. Countries agree to abide by conventions (like the Geneva Convention). UN resolutions are such conventions too, but the UN’s credibility to settle controversial cross-nation problems has been in doubt for most of its existence because it’s ended up being a pawn of the permanent SC member states.
When the Indian government allowed Kashmir to be called a disputed territory by the UN in the aftermath of the 1947-48 war, Nehru and cohort assumed that the UN (then hardly 3 years old) would play fair. Heck, he assumed Pakistan would play fair. Those things have not come to pass.
Given what the US government has been pulling off recently, my belief is that the UN itself as an organization is not long for the world. It survived much longer than the League of Nations did, but every such institution has an expiration date.
On East Pakistan: India wouldn’t have cared about it one war or the other if your army hadn’t committed a genocide there, leading to millions of refugees flowing into India, causing massive instability. That called for a decisive military action in the region, which the Indian military had the competence to pull off. The fact that the former East Pakistanis chose to secede from Pakistan and create a new country was none of our concern. It was entirely their choice, and the fault for that lies in Pakistan.
Frankly, it doesn’t matter what you or other Indians think. You are free to continue believing that Kashmir is an “integral part” of India. In the end, you are a rando on the Internet.
Pandit Nehru promised the Kashmiri people would not be joined to India at gunpoint. But we all know what happened in the end. The Hindu Dogra king had no moral authority to choose anything for Kashmiri Muslims.
The position of the entire international community is clear. That’s why they speak of “Indian ADMINISTERED Kashmir”. No one believes it’s truly a part of India–no matter what your government’s position is. It is a Disputed Territory that is in India’s hands pending the resolution of the dispute. I’m getting tired of repeating myself that the LOC is a ceasefire line and not an international border.
Now, it’s a different matter that since both India and Pakistan are nuclear powers, neither can succeed in taking territory held by the other. But that doesn’t mean the dispute ceases to exist.
On East Pakistan: Whatever problems existed between West Pakistan and East Pakistan, India was happy to fan the flames and dismember Pakistan. We will never forget that and never forgive that.
However, now we are a nuclear power and India’s proxies in Balochistan will not succeed in taking one inch of the Islamic Republic.
Feel free to have the last word. This is rapidly becoming repetitive.
There is a human cost to what you are saying. And its tragic.
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[…] Baluchistan January 31, 2026 […]
relates the term “Baloch” to Meluḫḫa**, the name by which the Indus Valley civilisation is believed to have been known to the Sumerians
Meluḫḫa disappears from the Mesopotamian records at the beginning of the second millennium BCE
** Meluḫḫa Mleccha is a Sanskrit term referring to those of an incomprehensible speech, foreigners or invaders deemed distinct and separate from the Vedic tribes
Asko Parpola relates the name Meluḫḫa to Indo-Aryan words mleccha (Sanskrit) and milakkha/milakkhu (Pali) etc., which DO NOT have an Indo-European etymology even though they were used to refer to non-Aryan people. Taking them to be proto-Dravidian in origin, he interprets the term as meaning either a proper name milu-akam (from which tamilakam was derived when the Indus people migrated south) or melu-akam, meaning “high country”, a possible reference to Balochistani high lands
So are Present day Balochs a mixture of the Brown Peoples of Iranian Plateau Hunter gatherers many of whom form the majority of Indus Valley Civilization DNA
Anyway the article header is NOT REPRESENTATIVE of Baloch peoples. See photo below