Open Thread: Bharat wins at Norway Chess, but something is off with Bollywood

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We are travelling, but South Indians, Tamilians?, are crushing it at chess. Praggnanandhaa took Norway Chess in Oslo this week with four straight classical wins to close, past Wesley So and over Gukesh on the way.

Which confirms the theory we have been quipping all trip: India, that is Bharat, owns the letter C. Chess, plainly. Cricket, obviously. Cuisine, beyond dispute. Culture, increasingly. Conversation, certainly (Desis are loud and loquacious). Caste, come to think of it..

However there is one C that has curdled: Cinema.

We caught the otherwise excellent Vadh 2 on the road. One scene was so gratuitously disturbing that we can’t shake it out of our minds.

Since Sacred Games, the sex and gore on Netflix India have not been there to serve a story. They are there to stimulate, and the audience being titillated are India’s masses. A young, idle, frustrated population is easiest to hold with sensation, so that is what is fed. This is not film-making. It is sedation at scale, and a restless country kept watching is silenced from increasing inequity (the largess of the Oligarchics) but perhaps deepening in rage (the constant ire at minorities)?

Ps: The Commentariat may also enjoy our newsletter piece on Mission Chandrayaan (Aug’23) witten prior to our re-engagement with BP, which we essentially inaugurated with Telugu being the Italian of the East (Sep’24).

The Newsletter and BP both started to kick off at roughly the same time; we decided to focus on BP since Substack is full of individual Auteurs but BP has a very venerable community, which we wanted to honour. The survey results are trickling through but what is astonishing is how sticky readers have been over this long decade and a half (BP will be 16 years in December; probably the oldest continuing Brown Blog on the internet).

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BombayBadshah
BombayBadshah
1 month ago

Do you watch South Indian cinema? Plenty available on OTT with subs.

Also plenty of good Hindi stuff on OTT (I recommended Kohrra on Netflix). Just a lot of “MirzapurSlop” as well.

Agni
Editor
1 month ago
Reply to  BombayBadshah

Kohrra is excellent. Both lead actors fantastic and the script is watertight.

I’d recommend Baramulla. Detective supernatural mystery.

BombayBadshah
BombayBadshah
1 month ago
Reply to  Agni

Article 370 was great. Planning to watch Baramulla soon.

k jayas
1 month ago

Benefits of being a hindu-

Is a tongue in cheek facebook forward by joy Mathew, a Kerala movie actor. Gives a look into the keralam society as is today.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BfxK7F5Tk/

Kabir
1 month ago

Iran has apparently fired missiles at Israel again. So it looks like the “ceasefire” is off. This is of course after Israel bombed Beirut.

https://www.dawn.com/live/iran-israel-war#2005898

Btw, where is sbarrkum?

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Yes.

Israel has just struck Iran. Explosions have been reported in Tehran, Tabriz and Isfahan.

https://www.dawn.com/live/iran-israel-war#2006050

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Agni
Editor
1 month ago
Reply to  Kabir

Apparently Trump has said that Israel has to accept the Iran deal.

It was quite obvious that Iran was going to win the war of attrition. My bets were on Iran to begin with. And the Strait of Hormuz to be jointly managed by Iran and Oman is a good thing imo. Wasn’t that the case to begin with?

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/i-call-shots-donald-trump-says-benjamin-netanyahu-has-no-choice-but-to-accept-iran-deal-11605079?pfrom=home-ndtv_topscroll

Last edited 1 month ago by Agni
Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  Agni

I don’t think Netanyahu necessarily listens to Trump.

Israel has already said they expect the exchange of fire with Iran to last several days.

Naam de Guerre
Naam de Guerre
1 month ago

Another of it only happens in India things

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/gujarat-navsari-interfaith-parsi-woman-funeral-denied-cremated-hindu-rituals-vhp-10727495/

Interestingly, for all their civilizational depth, it Muslim and Parsi cultures seem very rigid in protecting their identity in the subcontinent. I can only see Dharmic and perhaps Christian communities doing something like this.

Also worth noting that the Hindu organization responsible is often besmirched as modern day Nazis. While not faultless, their outlook would still be far more liberal than equivalent Muslim organizations in India.

Fly Die
1 month ago
Reply to  Naam de Guerre

A long time ago, during the 1st-2nd AD, there was a state called the Kushan Empire that ruled over most of Central Asia, the Tarim Basin, and northern India. The rulers of this dynasty followed the Zoroastrian religion; in fact, they actually worshiped an Iranian goddess named Nana, who originally was the Mesopotamian goddess Nanya, the daughter of the goddess Enana. She was depicted as riding a lion with multiple hands, yielding weapons in a few of them, and holding the moon in his upper left hand, while holding the sun on the opposite side. Eventually, the Kushan empire fell, and the Zoroastrian religion declined with the state, in addition to the goddess Nana being absorbed into Shaktism, hence producing the lion-riding goddess of Durga that we see today.

The basic point I am trying to make stems from the fact that most external religions always have a massive risk of being absorbed into the mainstream Hindu religion all the time. Zoroastrian and Iranian deities, for example, have continuously been subsumed into the Hindu religious tradition all the time. The need for exclusivity in some sense is needed to remove aspects of syncretism and overlap to ensure that a complete absorption can never happen. This is especially true for religions that have historically been more dependent on state patronage for their expansion. For example, Islam is more common in the Deccan and North since they were ruled by Islamicate dynasties that actively helped patronise their religious institutions. The Vijayanagara empire, on the other hand, did not produce the same amount of patronage, hence it is lower in places ruled by that state. A similar thing happened with Zoroastrianism in the Sassanid empire; it was the state religion until the caliphate conquered the region and made Islam the main religion, which gradually caused Zoroastrianism to decline.

Jainism and Christianity are merchantile religions that are more dependent on commerce to expand rather than the government. Historically (and even today), the Jains represent a prosperous community that has a lot of economic clout that they often use to increase their political and social capital. A good example would be the expansion of Jainism in the Deccan, where the Jains started as a migrant religious community from the North that gradually settled and developed an economic base in the Deccan. Their economic influence was so large that the local nobility tried to gain their favor and even patronized their institutions. Christianity is similar since the Enlightenment due to the broader secularization of the state and the introduction of the market economy that detethered the religion from the state. Christianity spread through commerce rather than direct government support as a result.

State-oriented religions tended to have aristocratic support, hence didn’t require the need to have strong grassroots connections and could be selective about such interactions without having to go beyond the comfort zone. When the Mazdakite movement developed grassroots connections and challenged the Zoroastrian religion, the magi priesthood convinced the Shah to purge the Mazdakites. Merchantile-oriented religions do not have that privilege, hence they need to actively engage with grassroots efforts and local connections, as there is no guarantee the state would be open to them.

State-oriented religions spread fact when they have government support, but weaken when the opposite happens. State-oriented religions that state support becomes more insular and vulnerable since they lost their patron and (depending on how many grassroots connections they have) don’t have local connections needed to support themselves. Merchantile religions take longer to spread from one region to another, but they are independent of the state and harder to uproot. So these religions tend to have local connections and can be more open to the broader society since they are well-rooted in a given society. Like Christians and Jains played a more active role in developing regional identity, Jains developed the Kananda language, and Christians are closely tied to things like the Dravidian movement. Now, Hinduism is a mix between the two methods; some sects are merchantile and others that are state-oriented, so even if one loses traction, the other kind can easily take over.

This isn’t an absolute argument since exceptions are there, but they still fall in line with the principle. The Mappila muslims of Kerala stand as an exception since they spread without state support; however, they were always a merchantile community with strong local connections. This might also explain the North Indian muslim close affinity with the two-nation theory before 1947, since they originate from a state-oriented tradition via the Delhi sultanate and Mughal empire, which means that they would have difficulties working in a non-state-oriented merchantile setting.

k jayas
1 month ago
Reply to  Fly Die

1) vijayanagar had/has a huge influence on Hinduism and all the classical art forms that survive in South india is a direct result of the patronage of vijayanagar kings. Saint purandara Dasaru who is considered as pitamaha of karnatic classical music was in vijayanagar in its heydays. His guru Vyasaraja (known else where as composer of ‘Krishna nee begane baro ‘) was a rajaguru of krishnadevaraya.

2) their patronage to madhwa swamis such as Vyasaraja and in turn vyasaraja giving legitimacy to his expansion is a matter of record. In fact Vyasaraja maths celebrates every year, an event when krishnadevaraya gave up the throne to save him in a “bad mahurtha” to Saint Vyasaraja who sat on it and saved the king.

3) shankaramutt swami, vidyaranya is considered as the main inspirational guide for establishment of the kingdom.

4) it was not travelling Jains who composed in Kannada, but landed Kannada Jains such as pampa ,Ranna, who composed ancient Kannada classics. Pampa’s forefathers were Brahmins who converted to Jainism.

Agni
Editor
1 month ago

Praggnanandhaa is Telugu I think.

Btw, found this interesting substack:

https://brownhistory.substack.com/

Good local cinema is growing and the star of Bollywood is waning. Good thing imo.

k jayas
1 month ago
Reply to  Agni

His father’s name is ramesh babu, a very unlikely Tamil name, sounds more Telugu. However they all speak tamil6at home.

k jayas
1 month ago

https://www.foxnews.com/world/americans-travel-pakistan-free-christians-trapped-modern-day-slavery-gods-hand

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Very tragic. I feel some amount of zakat should be used to free these people.

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Within hours of his arrival, Hutchings paid off the debts for two enslaved Christian families and escorted them to freedom, breaking the “curse that they’ve had for hundreds of years.”

There are up to one million Christians working in slave and bonded labor in Pakistan, according to Emma Hall, a persecution researcher working with charity Open Doors U.K. and Ireland, told Fox News Digital. This could comprise as much as 30% of Pakistani Christians, counted at 3.3 million in the 2023 census and accounting for 1.37 percent of the population.

Kabir
1 month ago

“Paan once symbolized courtly status in India. Then it became an unsanitary, ‘native’ habit”

https://scroll.in/article/1092625/paan-once-symbolised-courtly-status-in-india-then-it-became-an-unsanitary-native-habit

Kabir
1 month ago

“Any cat to catch the mice”

By Jawed Naqvi (DAWN’s correspondent in Delhi)

https://www.dawn.com/news/2006298/any-cat-to-catch-the-mice

The AAP subsequently propagated a soft temple-hopping Hindutva, in which Arvind Kejriwal scrupulously avoided standing with Muslims when they were under attack from the BJP and the police in 2020. But if he or the Cockroach group can yet consciously or unwittingly help stall the rightward, obscurantist drift the Modi government has set India on, it would make Deng Xiaoping’s spirit burst into a smile. “It doesn’t matter whether a cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice.” Deng’s dictum applies to anybody who would rescue India from its current trauma. And there’s no need to spread fear of those such as the Cockroach party before they do something wrong.

Kabir
1 month ago

This was a good piece:

“Read Your Way Through Karachi”

By Umer Sheikh

https://brownhistory.substack.com/p/read-your-way-through-karachi

Agni previously mentioned this Substack.

Kabir
1 month ago

“What the Banning of the JAAC Reveals about Power in Azad Kashmir”

By Syed Mushahid Hussain Naqvi

https://thediplomat.com/2026/06/what-the-banning-of-the-jaac-reveals-about-power-in-azad-kashmir/

The confrontation escalated when the movement expanded its focus from economic grievances to institutional questions. The most contentious issue concerned the 12 seats reserved in the AJK Legislative Assembly for refugees from Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir residing in Pakistan.

These seats have long been one of the most distinctive features of AJK’s political system. Supporters argue that they provide representation to displaced Kashmiris and preserve the broader political character of the Kashmir dispute. Critics, however, contend that they have become a mechanism through which Pakistan-based political parties influence government formation in Muzaffarabad.

Although the refugee constituencies are located outside AJK, they have frequently played a decisive role in shaping political outcomes within the territory. JAAC’s demand for their abolition therefore challenged not merely a constitutional provision but a political arrangement that has historically linked AJK’s internal politics with Pakistan’s broader power structure.

Kabir
1 month ago

“US launches ‘self-defence” strikes against Iran after Apache helicopter downing”

https://www.dawn.com/live/iran-israel-war#2006494

El Khawaja
1 month ago

Some good news on the football front for Pakistan. The men’s national team just beat a stronger and higher ranked Maldives and Afghanistan side to qualify for the finals of the diamond jubilee four-nation tournament going on in the Maldives.

https://x.com/Aboutpakistan90/status/2063703470524584279

Last edited 1 month ago by El Khawaja
El Khawaja
1 month ago
Reply to  El Khawaja

81 minutes into the final, scores 1-0 in Pakistan’s favor thanks to a goal from Shayik Dost from Nushki, Balochistan. Otis Khan just got subbed off, one of Pakistan’s premier players – has had a good tournament. There’s been a good mix of homegrown and diaspora players.

Games being live streamed on Maldivian state tv’s youtube channel, Maldivian commentary is interesting – sounds similar to Sinhalese but also similarities to north Indo-Aryan languages.

link to the livestream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZyPW7N8U4I

Last edited 1 month ago by El Khawaja
El Khawaja
1 month ago
Reply to  El Khawaja

Haroon Hamid doubled the lead 5 minutes into stoppage time, he’s had a great tournament. As I write this comment, the whistle has been blown, Pakistan has won. Great performance by the entire team. Clean sheet for Yusuf Butt, his keeping was on point the whole tournament. Norberto Solano’s appointment as manager seems to have paid off. Hopefully we can build from here and aim to qualify for the 2030 Fifa world cup and 2031 Asian cup.

Kabir
1 month ago

For those interested in a sensible Pakistani view on what is going on in AJK:

“Fragile ground”

By Zahid Hussain

https://www.dawn.com/news/2006551

Last week, the AJK Supreme Court upheld a reference filed by the AJK government, stating that the provision of reserved seats could only be altered through a constitutional amendment. But can an assembly, a quarter whose members are elected on reserved seats, make such changes? When democratic recourse is closed off, the people have no choice but to fight for their rights. No force can stop the power of the people.

Kabir
1 month ago

Maybe BP can collaborate with Himal Southasian?

https://www.himalmag.com/

They are doing some interesting work. For example the “Himal Fiction Fest”. So far they have posted translations of short stories from Kashmiri and Sinhala.

Kabir
1 month ago

“We’re going to be attacking them and attacking them very hard”: Trump on Iran

https://www.dawn.com/live/iran-israel-war#2006660

Kabir
1 month ago

“A Crisis in Azad Kashmir”

https://azadessa.substack.com/p/a-crisis-in-azad-kashmir

For observers, the key distinction has to be between the local grievances driving the protests and the broader statist narratives that obfuscate the former.

The deeper pattern is what these mirror-image accusations do to the people caught between them.

A movement that began with complaints about electricity costs, food prices, and who controls the region’s resources has been drawn into the rival narratives of both capitals: for New Delhi, it is evidence of Pakistan’s human rights abuses; for Islamabad, proof of Indian meddling.

In each telling, the people of Azad Kashmir lose authorship of their own grievances.

They become either victims or pawns, but rarely people with their own case.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

It’s not really an ethnic clash. The main issue is the reserved seats for refugees from Indian-held Kashmir living in Pakistan. These 12 seats are seen as being used by the Government of Pakistan to make or break governments in AJK. There is an election that is supposed to be held in AJK at the end of July.

Neelum District (part of AJK) was never part of Jammu. It actually borders Gilgit Baltistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neelum_District

The issue of how “azad” AJK actually is is well worth a post. But it’s not a discussion I personally feel comfortable having with Indian participation.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

There are actually two different categories of refugees: those from the Valley and those from Jammu. I don’t really know the details but this is what I’ve read. There are 6 seats reserved for Valley refugees and 6 seats for Jammu refugees.

My uncle (by marriage) is from Muzaffarabad. His family was from the Valley before Partition.

I think even Muzaffarabad District was never part of Jammu province since it borders Kupwara District of Indian-held Kashmir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzaffarabad_District

RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Discussions of Indian ‘flawed secularism’ for thee, but censorship on any negative topics west of the Radcliffe line for me.

That’s not a ‘ceasefire’ or a level playing field. Quite tilted actually. But anyway.

formerly brown
formerly brown
1 month ago
Reply to  Kabir

they are fairly independent in their own eyes.decades ago in gulf, a pathan taxi driver said to me that only malbaris and kashmiris never mention india and pakistan as their mulk. this was clearly irritating him.

Kabir
1 month ago

Here’s a sensible Pakistani perspective on the question of women and modest dress in Islam:

“Women and Islam: On Modesty”

By Sophia Khan

https://apinksamosa.substack.com/p/women-and-islam-on-modesty

What’s important, both sides should realize, is individual freedoms – giving girls equal access to education, to jobs, to inheritance, giving her the right to make her own decisions. These are the freedoms girls and women must fight for.

While forcing women to dress this way or that is absolutely wrong, we need to stop assuming that all women in hijab are forced, unhappy, disenfranchised or brainwashed. At the same time, Muslim women who don’t cover their heads are making a choice for themselves that is only theirs to make, and it is not for people to judge the degree of their “Muslim-ness” based on how she dresses.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Agree on informed choice. Environment obviously makes a difference.

I think Sophia’s view is that of a centrist Pakistani woman. She is going to be doing a ten part series on feminism (this is the second part).

Most women in Pakistan don’t wear the hijab but the dupatta–which is seen as part of the shalwar kameez.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Yes, it’s essentially a newsletter platform. Although, since they introduced “Notes”, it’s also sort of a social media site.

But I do think most users are writers themselves.

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