Hinduism,Hindus,BJP/RSS media, academia,politics; Whose fault is it anyway?

Interactions regarding this, with power being in hands of west to a larger degree has been the way over last few centuries, this has given a misplaced view among some Hindus that everyone are out to get them. There is some truth considering the influence of monotheism in culture in general and the fact that monotheism is bigotry. There are of course investments of various kinds, whether it be missionaries or left intellectuals, in India or outside whose nature of works is subversive at various times and not merely academic. This however is not to be seen in isolation that some of the best intellectuals, writers, actors ,philosophers have historically found positive interest in Hinduism . Julia roberts, russell brand among recent celebrities, Aldous Huxley infact wrote an introduction to Bhagvad Gita .George Harrison, one quarter of the famous “beatles” also found inspiration in Hinduism. Among scientists, Oppenheimer too was impressed by Bhagvad Gita and his choice of words are now immortalized in cultural memory. Schrodinger was another great physicist who also did find inspiration from ideas with in Hinduism.Among Philosophers, Schopenhauer stands tall, he too did find something of value in the writings of Upanishads.

So, it is not true to say this relationship was entirely negative. What is true is that it takes effort to build on the positive interactions and continue to keep building over that. And this effort must most certainly come from Hindus themselves and must be independent of politics through community effort. It is here that Hindus are found wanting. They have neglected humanities dept entirely and are now complaining of inherent malice.

They have not connected to the wider society through charity, education, tradition,literature & arts as other communities have done. It is also true that respect comes with power and wealth and India being poor compared to Japan or china had to face this. However here too they have no one else to blame but themselves for not distinguishing themselves economically from the left and make a reasoned argument for capitalism, distinguish themselves by standing for free speech and throw out rules engineered by congress govt under Nehru that bar free speech. By staying out of Humanities , they have allowed others to define them and have allowed the trajectory of Indian economy to be run by the left.This exacerbated poverty and all the faultlines in society . Even now, they cannot seem to make a case for why capitalism is better.When it is the greatest system for creation of wealth and helps mend faultlines and strengthen sovereignty .Nor do they seem to have a plan on how to mend the faultlines. To give an example, BJP govt has been in power in many states for well over 15 yrs, has been in power at the center for past 4 yrs, they have chosen not to give themselves autonomy over education in states where Hindus are minority nor have they spent much time over many decades to actually create avenues to rectify this lacunae by building institutions of learning and help them to mend the faultines in society tearing them apart or have regular events or meetings to bridge over faultlines. To even posit a future goal or trajectory requires a respect for intelligence which is not found in BJP/RSS but more importantly, there is no accountability asked by supporters of them either or by Hindus in general of all their leaders. The contempt for intellectuals is incredible and a good example of it is the Prime Minister India Narendra Modi declaring that “Hardwork is more powerful than Harvard”.This during the infamous demonetization which was carried out haphazardly & whose effects are being felt by citizens even now in form of cash crunch in various cities.

In general, it is those in power who can and should reach out to others, win over others. Come up with a more inclusive engagement with other communities, build trust and cultivate media relations that reflects this change. It instead seems as though a more cynical ploy is at play of allowing others to malign in hopes this will feed into anxiety of their supporters and unthinkingly get them to double down their loyalty and support them even further and carry forward this dynamic of tribalism that has helped them. To me atleast, it seems clear that for the BJP/RSS, they would rather have an electorate that never holds them accountable to anything and drive the anxiety of Hindus in general as it is politically useful to them. This is substantiated by the fact that they have no plan to ameliorate or redress any actual grievances. Nor transmute this anxiety by doing something constructive , whether it be in form of media ,literature, academia or any thing else. This leaves their supporters trapped.Which seems to be their only goal.

For Hindus in general, they need to ask themselves the hard question as to whether it is fair to ask others to stand up for them when they themselves chose not to do so for each other or hold their leaders accountable and blindly give their loyalty. The story of Bangladeshi Hindus is unknown to most Hindus themselves , how is one to make a case for it for world to hear?. It is not so that others are entirely biased for in others one find very many who know nothing or some have a positive interest, it is so that others do invest themselves at all levels and Hindus chose to not invest their own time or wealth and are calling others who they disagree with as being unfair because they do invest. Does it make sense to criticize missionaries or anyone else for courting dalits into their narrative if Hindus choose not to mend their own fault lines among themselves at a war footing with great urgency?. If they chose to not to share power through pre arranged power pacts among themselves first whose fault should it really be?. It requires investment of time, resources and activism to clear out even misplaced rumors.So lets not blame others even before we put our own house in order.

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Deep Bhatnagar
Deep Bhatnagar
6 years ago

You are confused about India’s position in Western thought.

When Colonizers first encountered Indians they found great value in engaging with them which resulted in the phenomenon i.e. now termed as Indomania.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indomania

Then came the second phase aka Indophobia or as Wiki calls it Anti-India sentiment –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Indian_sentiment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Hindu_sentiment

It all lead to Orientalism & resulted in the modern rupture of Orientalism & post-Orientalism, Humanities crisis & so on…….

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I think you have not check the work i have shared on your article – “Should Hinduism Survive”

Here is my more elaborated post regarding “Caste” & it’s roots in “Orientalism”-
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/8ck050/is_the_usage_of_term_caste_a_result_of/

I hope you will take time to check it out & read it in detail & share your thoughts.

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// They have not connected to the wider society through charity, education, tradition,literature & arts as other communities have done. It is also true that respect comes with power and wealth and India being poor compared to Japan or china had to face this. However here too they have no one else to blame but themselves for not distinguishing themselves economically from the left and make a reasoned argument for capitalism, distinguish themselves by standing for free speech and throw out rules engineered by congress govt under Nehru that bar free speech. By staying out of Humanities , they have allowed others to define them and have allowed the trajectory of Indian economy to be run by the left.This exacerbated poverty and all the faultlines in society . Even now, they cannot seem to make a case for why capitalism is better.When it is the greatest system for creation of wealth and helps mend faultlines and strengthen sovereignty .Nor do they seem to have a plan on how to mend the faultlines. To give an example, BJP govt has been in power in many states for well over 15 yrs, has been in power at the center for past 4 yrs, they have chosen not to give themselves autonomy over education in states where Hindus are minority nor have they spent much time over many decades to actually create avenues to rectify this lacunae by building institutions of learning and help them to mend the faultines in society tearing them apart or have regular events or meetings to bridge over faultlines. To even posit a future goal or trajectory requires a respect for intelligence which is not found in BJP/RSS but more importantly, there is no accountability asked by supporters of them either or by Hindus in general of all their leaders. The contempt for intellectuals is incredible and a good example of it is the Prime Minister India Narendra Modi declaring that “Hardwork is more powerful than Harvard”.This during the infamous demonetization which was carried out haphazardly & whose effects are being felt by citizens even now in form of cash crunch in various cities. //

The real malice lies in the rulers & elites of Indian subcontinent because they benefit greatly by keeping things as they are instead of providing Indians quality education since it would then force the politicians, academicians & elites to respond to people & they don’t want this responsibility.

Xerxes the Magian
6 years ago
Reply to  Deep Bhatnagar

Hey mate please put a pic (any pic in your handles) / any picture will do (anonymity and privacy still paramount) but just to give a picture to a name

Deep Bhatnagar
Deep Bhatnagar
6 years ago

I don’t know how to do it, help ?

Deep Bhatnagar
Deep Bhatnagar
6 years ago

// Does it make sense to criticize missionaries or anyone else for courting dalits into their narrative if Hindus choose not to mend their own fault lines among themselves at a war footing with great urgency?. If they chose to not to share power through pre arranged power pacts among themselves first whose fault should it really be?. It requires investment of time, resources and activism to clear out even misplaced rumors.So lets not blame others even before we put our own house in order. //

That’s a whole different issue because it needs a completely new narrative to be forged not only about Dalits or others but about Identities, it’s relationship to religion, social hierarchy as result of social interaction & so on.

As i have said before removing ‘community’ categorization by elites is the best way for all Indians to move forward but try to suggest these things to the people benefiting from current dominant narratives & you will see why it’s impossible to do now {That’s why i always talk about – Problem of Informer & Informed, Knowledge creator & Conclusion drawer etc.}

Prashanth
Prashanth
6 years ago

Goodby

This blog has become a bit uncomfortable for me as I have a bit of atheism- agnostic- pagan- polyethism in me. Lately, there are just too many one-sided red lines that disturb my thoughts. On the other hand, it is possible that the blog has not changed much. It could be only that I am no more as young as I used to be and I can’t take so much of irritation, as I used to.

I have no posts here, I read and make a few comments once in a while and it is true that it is not affecting the blog in any way. I am placing this comment just for those who are familiar with my name on this blog and may wonder…

Good luck!

Xerxes the Magian
6 years ago
Reply to  Prashanth

Sad to see you go; I removed ur duplicate comment.

I don’t understand by the way the “red lines” are biased.

Kabir
6 years ago
Reply to  Prashanth

Sorry to see you go. You were one of the more consistently sensible commenters. In fact, I wish you had posted articles of your own. I’m sure they would have been interesting.

If I have caused any offense, please forgive me. I don’t think the drama of last week in any way represents how BP usually is.

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