Comments are starting to get out of hand. I usually just trim the offending lines, but moving forward, moderation will be stricter. If something crosses a clear line, I may delete the entire comment—editing takes too much time. This is still a forum for disagreement. But juvenile antics help no one.
If you disagree with the moderation or with me, you’re welcome to voice it—respectfully—in the comments. I don’t want my own subconscious biases contaminating the tone of this site. But I also won’t let it descend into brawling.
A personal view: if Pakistan gave up all claims beyond the LoC, it would be a historic act of good grace—and help South Asia immeasurably. Knowing when to stop is also part of dignity.
First, gratitude to @phyecho1 for flagging the tragic assassination of Dr. Sheikh Mahmood Ahmad, a respected Ahmadi physician. He was a genuinely good man—returning from the UK to serve Pakistan, often offering treatment free of charge. May he rest in peace, and rise in the highest heaven.
What’s tragic—on top of the murder—is how foreign-passport South Asians are now dueling in the comments, each trying to pin the subcontinent’s misery on the other. Let’s be clear: Pakistan must radically rethink how it treats its minorities. Two otherwise thoughtful Pakistani commentators slipping so quickly into Muslim nationalism says a lot. A nation that offers permanent second-class status to non-Muslims cannot thrive in the 21st century.
That said, I also find it difficult to take seriously the sudden concern for Islamic reform from Hindutva-lite voices who, in the same breath, root for Pakistan’s collapse. The hypocrisy is galling. Balance is exhausting. But necessary.
I am dead.
But my descendants don’t hold foreign passports, but Indian ones.
This speaks to the failure of Pakistan that my own descendants didn’t remain Pakistanis.
Satire is meant to be sharp—but also funny. I’m not sure what’s gained by endlessly mocking QeA other than provoking the Pakistani commentators (Kabir & Qureshi). I’m here for high-signal contributions, not low-effort outrage bait.
You’re skirting the line. I’m letting it through this time. But going forward, if something tips from humour into gratuitous offence, I may quietly edit or remove it. Let’s keep the bar high.
Very sad news. Pakistani leaders must provide more protections to Ahmadis
What is interesting however is that Indians keep on a close eye on Pakistani internal affairs and are always worried about minorities in Pakistan. Perhaps they should look closer to home, where ruling party has 0 Muslim representation and Muslims are lynched every other day routinely by Hindu fanatics, for example, just few days ago:
https://www.newindianexpress.com/states/karnataka/2025/Apr/30/mangaluru-lynching-youth-identified-as-kerala-native-with-intellectual-disability-rss-bajrang-dal-workers-arrested
India must provide more safeguards to its Muslim minorities or another Pakistan can (and will) come into being.
By the same logic Ahmadis, who have it much worse than Indian Muslims, should carve out an “Ahmadistan”?
India can form and fund Ahmadi terrorism in Pakistan for the same purpose of dismemberment, just like they have been funding BLA and TTP currently carrying out terrorist attacks in Pakistan for the past few years. Pakistan should do the same with Sikhs, Naxals, Nagaland and Kashmir, maybe also help Bangladesh annex WB and China fully integrate Arunachal.
This is the new geopolitical reality now, by crossing the international border and bombing 26 unarmed Pakistani civilians including women and children, and then going onto label them as terrorists, and then worse: by celebrating these killings, India has shown it is copying the Israeli playbook of genocide. So there is no point in being nice now, as Field Marshall Hafiz Syed Asim Muneer has said: we are a ‘hard state’ and will now act like one.
Hahahahahaha.
2024 terrorist fatalities
Balochistan – 774
KPK – 1363
Punjab – 4
Nagaland – 3
Naxalite – 397
J&K – 127
Nagaland and Punjab finished a long long time ago. Punjab literally hosts international cricket and IPL. Quetta and Peshawar PSL teams have played literally ZERO matches in Quetta and Peshawar. Nagaland has music festivals with international artists.
J&K and Naxalite is winding down due to development and lower TFR leading to an aging population (you need poor young men for an insurgency). Balochistan and KPK are ramping up for the opposite reasons (plus Afghanistan support).
And there is greater chance of India conquering Paksitan and forming Akhand Bharat than Bangladesh taking over WB and China Arunachal – two states whose populations are very happy being Indian.
Like I have said before – difference between desire and ability.
Pakistan might want to win cricket tournaments, but keep getting kicked out by the likes of Bangladesh, USA, Afghanistan.
Similarly they should look to have total control of their own country before playing “great games” which is the preserve of greater powers, not teensy weensy small states like Pakistan.
Ahmadistan, Balochistan, Pasthunishtan, Seraikistan, Sindhudesh – All of these will be formed.
And as the father of Pakistan I give my blessing as they will be my grandchildren.
he did mention Pakistan is an “occupying force” in Baluchistan.
As a fellow Pakistani, please calm down.
Agreed Balochistan is unequivocally part of Pakistan. It’s none of India’s business. Our government believes India sponsors the BLA (I have no way of independently verifying whether this is true or not). If this is true, India should stop doing it. They cannot blame Pakistan for waging a proxy war against India if they are waging a proxy war against Pakistan.
“Dismembering” India is not a useful or productive goal for Pakistan. First, neither country can “dismember” the other short of a nuclear war. Secondly, we have no claim on anything other than the Disputed Territory of IIOJK. We have to continue pushing for a solution to that core issue.
India and Pakistan need to become normal neighbors. We will never love them. They will never love us. But this level of hostility is not productive.
India and Pakistan cannot become normal neighbours. Indians want to be the hegemony in the region and Pakistan does not want to be under Indian hegemony.
The Indian claims about Pakistan wanting the destruction of India are just fantastical.
Most Pakistanis really don’t care about India outside Kashmir and actually mostly has a positive view of the country in peacetime. The borders are mostly settled and people have made peace with that (outside of Kashmir) But it’s clear now that the Indian society is completely overtaken by RSS ideology, most of which is delusional and irredenrist. Indians have no idea about Pakistan, and very little capacity to introspect why their Pakistan policy has gone wrong apart from the simplistic BS about “all Pakistanis are radicalized extremists”.
Indians, even though they may deny it, want the dismemberment of Pakistan. Recently a Congress MP wrote an article on how the Indian Army should this time increase Indian territory by annexing Pak Punjab and Sindh, gleefully tweeted by famous RW media handles who otherwise pretend they want nothing to do with Pakistan. Congress favt Shashi Tharoor openly in a Hindi interview called for Pakistani innocent civilian blood to be spilled, without shame. This is Israel levels delusion and last two years have made it clear to most Pakistanis what’s Indians want, the Indians have openly stated their aims as such(they want to commit genocide). There is a critical mass of Indians that don’t even have any moral qualms about such things.
This is why this is now a zero sum game. It’s not hateful to say this. Pakistan must become hawkish with India, much more than it already is. It’s existential threat. This is why you see that there was absolutely no one who is willing to cede India any ground.
Becoming normal neighbors is an aspirational goal. Obviously, it’s not going to happen in the short term.
I agree with you that the Indian media played a horrible role over the last few weeks. They pretended they had conquered Lahore and Islamabad. I didn’t see any Pakistani media claiming to have conquered Delhi.
I disagree that “dismembering” India is either practical or productive for Pakistan. We have a dispute on Kashmir. It must remain limited to that.
India is not interested in keeping it limited to Kashmir. Remember, they attacked Bhawalpur and killed civilians there. This is not about Kashmir, Kashmir is just an excuse. It’s ideological at this point.
My home city of Bombay has suffered dozens and dozens of attacks on civilians, so you’re right, its ‘not just about Kashmir’. and for PakMil it never was.
There is a historical track record from the early 1990s to 2025 that led to India targeting Bahawalpur.
It is ‘ideological’ – because the PakMil depends on such proxies and this hostility to perpetuate its looting of Pakistani awaam. And the ‘ideological’ issue isn’t just limited to PakMil who are only cynically milking it.
I have seen video clips of Hafiz Saeed giving speeches in front of adoring loud crowds bragging about attacking Delhi’s Red fort and parliament by LeT Fidayeens. Videos of ‘mujahids’ raising funds in bazaars like my daughter sells girl scout cookies outside of Whole foods. Pakistani society has long been complicit in not just normalizing terrorist murders of Indians, but glorifying it.
For India, its just a problem of terrorism violence to manage, and in 2025 India has greater resources to throw at the problem than it did in the 1990s. So it can attempt reducing such incidents by inflicting retaliatory costs – something it couldn’t do back then.
India has a history of supporting terrorist groups in Pakistan in order to break it up. Whether that’s funding and training Mukti Bahini, or the Baloch insurgency, MQM militias or outright funding terrorist groups like BLA and TTP these days and using their networks to kill civilians in Pakistan, India is a state sponsor of terror that should not lecture Pakistan on anything. Pakistan has actively supported militants in Kashmir but Kashmir is a disputed territory. Even Khalistani support was pretty half hearted.
What is clearly different between the two countries is how demented the Indians are compared to the Pakistanis. Pakistanis never celebrated any civilians getting killed in India but Indians actively celebrate this, including killing children, and post it out for the world to see. This rot runs deep in their society and fed by ruling party’s ideology which clearly lacks even basic human morality. Most Indians covet Pakistani territory because the locus of their entire made up religious history lies in Pakistan. The dehumanization of Pakistanis and Muslims in general is for everyone to see, and this is why Pakistan will continue to treat India as an existential threat to be dismembered for its security.
when the APS school attack occurred a few years ago, millions of Indians lit candles for the kids. 30 years of repeated Pakistani murders of Indians has hardened Indian attitudes towards Pakistan. And nobody ‘celebrates’ terror attacks in Pak – they are viewed as karmic consequences, if anything. And even Pakistanis – including the delusional patriots – do know the truth after all – “yeh jo dehshat-gardi hai, iske peeche vardi hai”. Who killed Benazir? Or Bugti?
this was an unnecessary and hate-filled comment
Pakistan Army will never allow any part of Pakistan to secede. This is a complete non-starter.
I would expect them to be charged, it is good they have been taken into custody. In anycase, soulless ghouls are being competitive about actually caring for death.A minor improvement in morality, congratulations. One wonders, the deaths you care for are only for muslims or anyone else. Or you consider murders of non muslims perfectly acceptable. One needs to check whether one is talking to a psychopath or merely a propagandized zombie.
“Dr Mahmood was widely regarded as one of Sargodha’s most experienced physicians. With over 31 years of experience, he had previously served at the Sadiq Hospital and was known for providing free treatment to underprivileged patients. ” . Problems will end once people realize being good requires one to do more than hate the other. It also requires standing up to bad people. But when one is programmed to believe hating and murdering innocents merely because they are the other is virtue, one ends up dealing with death cults. And time to stop both sideism.
tragic
deleted my message unnecessarily. Neither was there any abuse .
I can’t remember why I removed it but oh yes now I remember it was needlessly hyperbolic.
I don’t want to be moralised to, with respect.
i wasnt moralizing you nor was it hyperbolic, i see twitter all the time, and with every bad news of some person being killed by fanatic, i see pakistani liberal gang predictably utter words of “sad”,”unfortunate”,”tragic: as if they are doing an extraordinary thing just saying that and go on to next whatever. They dont even use any new words.After seeing this for really, over a decade, you realize its just virtue bs. They use those words precisely to not connect at an emotional level with such horrific incidents. The aim is to unmoralize it, make it bland . People act only when it feels like a gut punch.And their aim is to take away the sting. If it doesnt sting, it wont lead to any change in moral behavior.
How about this– Indian history is just like European and American history, except the periods are in reverse. Whereas Europe and America were very conservative during the 19th century, India became socially very liberal due to the exposure that Hinduism was gaining in the West. Now that it’s the 21st century, Europe and America are turning more socially liberal (just listen to the Top 40 songs on the radio and you’ll see what I mean), and India is turning increasingly conservative.
Edit: my comment should’ve said Europe and America are turning more socially liberal (alternative medicine, vegetarianism, etc)
Respectfully, bothsideism is tiring and exhausting for us ( paraphrasing Barkha Dutt, no less) as is the false equivalence between India and Pakistan. Hindutva rose over the last 100 years as a response to the 1400 year old ideology of killing non-believers. And PM Modi gave Pakistan more than enough opportunities to mend it’s ways. So no, disagree with your premise there. If I’ve learnt anything from the discourses here, it’s that trying to talk with Pakistan or indeed their aam aadmi is futile.
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Point well taken.
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