Moderation Note: On Gaza, October 7, and the Limits of Tolerance

Kabir’s Muslim nationalism cosplaying as liberalism is vexatious (it would be excellent if he just disclosed his priors), but I give the admin full authority to handle that directly.

My immediate concern is with BB-HS. I have barred him from becoming an author and have removed his last twenty comments. Despite his earlier misrepresentation about being “half-Muslim,” I allowed him to return under a new handle, tabula rasa. His output, however, is increasingly defined by “fantasies” about what a model minority should be; deracinated and devoid of meaningful character.

BB’s Response (after I had deleted his past 20 comments)

“Why though? The only animus I have is with Kabir because he represents a demographic I loathe – The soft Islamist | The ‘liberal’ English-speaking version who whitewashes his more hardcore cousins’ atrocities. Actual people have died due to Islamists which Kabir downplays (Pahalgam, October 7th). Some ribbing online is nothing in comparison. And I haven’t even said anything insulting.”

My Response

    1. Kabir is not an Islamist. He is a Muslim nationalist—since Pakistan itself is sine qua non Muslim nationalism (the idea that Indian Muslims were entitled to their own nation). Just as every Israeli is, by definition, a Zionist/Jewish nationalist, even if individuals disagree with its implications, Kabir represents that current.
    2. What stands out is that BB mentions only Pahalgam and October 7—both undeniably tragic events, and I say this as someone who is not Muslim—while omitting the ongoing genocide in Gaza.It is akin to referencing 9/11, a devastating moment in history, without also acknowledging the destruction of Afghanistan and Iraq and the millions of lives lost in their aftermath.
    3. Unlike Kabir, vexatious, but rarely personal, BB makes his attacks direct. He is not Kabir’s friend indulging in ribbing; he is simply “Honey” under another guise.
    4. What sets him apart is an openly hierarchical stance: non-Muslim lives ranked above Muslim ones, echoing the very post-colonial divide-and-rule strategies we are meant to reject.
    5. Kabir manipulates through weaponised victimhood; BB chooses blunt hostility, lacing personal abuse into his commentary. I have permanently removed Honey’s comments for that reason, vulgarity leaves no space for debate and I treat BB and Honey as a single entity.
    6. Beneath the very different styles of BB-HS & Kabir lies the same contempt: the belief that the only acceptable minority is one hollowed out, compliant, and dead on the inside.

Moderation Philosophy

As a Founder, my job is to ensure Brown Pundits does not become an echo chamber. I have repeatedly critiqued Kabir’s contradictions, but once I accepted him as a Muslim nationalist cosplaying liberalism, I could also accept his place in the debate. We have multiple Hindu nationalists here, and when Kabir is challenged\moderated, the balance tends to restore itself. The ecosystem can correct for his presence.

Finally, let me stress: the comment boards are not the only heart of this site. Too often they descend into noise. If regular commentators want to influence debate constructively, they should apply to become Authors; where they can speak directly to our 2,000+ daily readers, not just the dozen or so regular commentariat.

Brown Pundits is rapidly emerging as the most interesting Indo-Pak cross-channel precisely because it is not an echo chamber. We literally upset everyone and that is a great thing because it means we are covering new difficult terrain. My moderation began with strict principles, but like everyone else, I have a life, job, and family. That means I must also be pragmatic.

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Indosaurus
2 months ago

You violated every policy XTM made Kabir. Don’t cry about milk you deliberately spilled.

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Pakistan has had two great non Muslim cricket players –

  • Yousuf Youhana had to convert
  • Danish Kaneria had to flee Pakistan and now openly tells of the discrimination he faced (minus Akhtar – Akhtar is a good man, a bit of a knob on the field and slightly inflated ego, but not an Islamist)
sbarrkum
2 months ago

On Gaza, October 7
XTMAs a Zionist what have you to say on Oct 7

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

tragic event; Hamas has to go.

Why should Hamas go. It was an elected body.
Are you advocating Hamas to be eliminated VIOLENTLY

Do you really think Israel will stop the Genocide and Ethnic cleansing even after Hamas is eliminated.

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I don’t think Hamas should be eliminated violently but I think Hamas should be able to stand for elections but the people of Gaza should be free to travel and work and become prosperous.

You know as well as I do that Israel will never allow that.

Golda Meir’s 1969 interview comment that “there was no such thing as Palestinians” is a cornerstone of Zionist policy. After the Holocaust, even those on the far-left of the Zionist movement, including Martin Buber and other members of Brit Shalom, did not see the Arabs as having an equally weighty claim to nationhood in Palestine

Last edited 2 months ago by sbarrkum
sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Partition and Direct Action Day was Pakistan’s Original Sin?

No different from the Brits creating Israel. i.e. a Partition of Palestine

Daves
Daves
2 months ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

what is your point? One is bad while other isn’t? Or is that just your anti-India emotions taking over?

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  Daves

what is your point? One is bad while other isn’t?
I think it is XTM who thinks Pakistan is worse than Israel.

I think Israel is worse than Pakistan as does the UN.
You are smart, you can figure out why the UN considers Israel is worse than Pakistan

Last edited 2 months ago by sbarrkum
sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Did you ever say Israel is committing Genocide

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