Poorer Pakistan OutFoxes Richer India?

“No one wants a strong India. But PM Modi opened doors. He strengthened the military, advanced the economy, maintained balanced relations with the West, Russia, and China. That is serious statecraft” –Aleksandar Vučić, President of Serbia

India is richer

Strip away the noise and a simple asymmetry remains. India will almost certainly remain richer than Pakistan for the foreseeable future. The gap in GDP, fiscal depth, technology, and demographic scale is widening, not narrowing. On material indicators, India has the advantage. Yet material advantage does not always translate into strategic dominance.

India is louder

India is a mass democracy. It is electorally accountable, media-saturated, and sensitive to public opinion. Governments must justify escalation. Markets react to instability. Voters punish miscalculation. This imposes restraint.

Pakistan is tighter

Pakistan is structured differently. Power is narrower. Decision-making is concentrated within a smaller elite, with the military as the central institution. That creates rigidity in some domains but flexibility in others. Strategic continuity does not reset every five years. Public opinion matters, but it does not directly determine policy in the same way it does across the border.

Structural Differences

This structural difference shapes behaviour. India must think about global markets, coalition politics, and reputational cost. Pakistan can absorb economic stress more easily because its political system is already insulated from full electoral volatility. That insulation produces durability, even under strain.

The list gets smaller. There are six countries who sent the head of state/government to all three: 1) Beijing military parade 2) Davos Board of Peace launch 3) Washington BOP 1st meeting They are: Armenia | Azerbaijan | Indonesia | Kazakhstan | Pakistan | Uzbekistan

Like Israel

The comparison to Israel is imperfect but instructive. Pakistan sees itself not merely as a normal state but as a mission-driven one; founded around a civilisational claim. That narrative has penetrated deeply, especially within Punjab, which anchors the state. Whatever internal divisions exist, the core idea of Pakistan remains intact among large segments of its population. That coherence matters.

Iran is different

Iran is different. Iran is an old civilisational state that experienced a revolution. Its legitimacy rests on both nationalism and ideology. Economic collapse pressures ideology because there is an alternative identity beneath it: Iranian nationhood. Pakistan’s founding identity is narrower and more defensive. That makes it, paradoxically, more resistant to ideological erosion.

Indian commentary misfires

Indian commentary often assumes that economic divergence will produce political collapse in Pakistan. History suggests otherwise. States with concentrated power structures can endure long periods of stagnation if the elite remains unified and the core population internalises the founding narrative. This does not mean Pakistan is stronger. It means it is structured differently.

Operation Sindoor

Recent crises illustrate the asymmetry. India may dominate on conventional metrics, but limited engagements allow Pakistan to frame survival as success. In strategic competition, narrative often substitutes for parity. If an operation does not decisively alter the balance, as 1971 did, it risks reinforcing the opponent’s domestic cohesion. That is not a moral judgment. It is an institutional one.

Strength versus Weakness

India’s strength is scale, openness, and economic dynamism. Its constraint is democratic accountability and reputational sensitivity. Pakistan’s weakness is economic fragility. Its advantage is strategic continuity and insulation from electoral shock. Analyses fail when they assume both systems operate under identical incentives. They do not.

Two different worlds

India and Pakistan are not mirror states. One is a continental democracy managing diversity through electoral churn. The other is a security state anchored in a founding idea and sustained by a narrower power core. Economic trends favour India. Structural resilience favours Pakistan in certain forms of confrontation. Understanding that asymmetry is more useful than arguing about which country is “better.”

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sbarrkum
1 month ago

Who is India’s Daddy

India’s heroic heart could not stand it. After US threats, India gave up Russian oil

Map showing the movement of Russian crude tankers.

The majority of Russian tankers are seen heading to China, which is an entirely different picture from just a few months ago, when the majority of Russian crude would arrive in India on large discounts, notably at the Jamnagar refinery.

Under US pressure, India has almost halved Russian imports from 2 million barrels per day, mb/d, to just 1.1 mb/d, with the target of further reduction to 800 thousands barrels per day.

Despite the massive discounts on Russian crude, India has submitted to the US pressure, and in return, China is using the rerouted cheap Russian oil to fill the gaps of the lost Venezuelan crude.

https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/2024080390189707738?

Kabir
1 month ago
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Here is a different view. Of course some people will dismiss “The Wire” as being “anti-national” etc but the analysis is based on facts:

https://thewire.in/history/modis-skewed-trade-deal-with-trump-demolishes-the-idea-of-swaraj-envisioned-by-dadabhai-naoroji-and-gandhi

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

There are plenty of Indian analysts who believe that this trade deal is a surrender to the US.

Perhaps some of them are inclined to be anti-Modi but their analysis is still based on some facts.

Just one example (from the article I linked above): If India buys US cotton, who is going to buy Indian cotton? Bangladesh recently made a trade deal with the US in which they promised to buy US cotton. Traditionally, Bangladesh has bought Indian cotton.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

In what way?

This is not my original analysis. The people writing in “The Wire” are Indian.

You could argue that they are inclined to find faults with the deal because they are anti BJP but generally they present facts in support of their analyses.

Questioning this trade deal is not an “anti India” act.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
Reply to  Kabir

Hahahahaha

Where is the US-Pakistan “trade deal”?

Reality is that Pakistan is not important enough to warrant one.

Trump used Pakistan for his Gaza security guard force and then banned immigration visas lol.

Aukaat.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  Bombay Badshah

For your information, Pakistan has not contributed any troops for Gaza.

“Aukaat”– How cute that you know one Urdu word! Buzz off.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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For now. Everyone remembers how Zia killed Palestinians in Black September.

RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
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Black September is a documented historical event, yes?

sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I think Modi made an excellent deal with the US fwiw; he’s been very adept in the Global Policy arena.

Specifics please
Even the Tariffs was a bad deal for India

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

18% is objectively better than its peer Asian competitors.

India continues to purchase S400 and other Russian arms, along with Russian oil – without using the USD, without any significant blowback. The ‘commitments’ to reduce Russian oil is being spun as some sort of ‘concession’ when in reality, India always has been beholden to the US-dominated global oil market. This isn’t a ‘new’ concession. India in the past agreed to suspend/reduce oil purchases from Iran as well, and Venezuela.

sbarrkum
1 month ago

18% is objectively better than its peer Asian competitors.

India does not get to charge Tariffs on US Exports/

Check your objectivity. with Image

India-Trump-Deal
Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

India is SL’s daddy. SL is just a playground for Indian tourists.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
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Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Lol no it was the Sinhalese who paid for the LTTE.

You are just coping now.

Anyway, two hoppers please with crab curry. Go easy on the spice.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  Bombay Badshah

Major Abhay Sapru on LTTE (Tamil Tigers) – Explained In 18 minutes by Indian Commando.
1:32 shattered the myth of the Martial Races, Gurkhas , Sikhs

One of the training camps was in Chakarata, in Uttarakhan state up in the Himalayas. Thats asbout 100 km north of Deheradun, the capital of Uttarakhan. Population 800 million about the size of Colombo.

Even Prabhakaran was one time guest of India in Dehradun/Chakarata.
Apparently Chakarata was established with the CIA and trained Tibetan terrorists among many others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuzM7iHm8U

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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The comment on Indian Army deaths should be redacted.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  Bombay Badshah

How hypocritical! You constantly celebrate Pakistan Army deaths.

Don’t play the innocent when it is done to you.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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“Don’t play innocent”.

The “the” is not necessary.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  Bombay Badshah

LOL! Whose English are you correcting? English is my NATIVE language. My ancestors have been speaking English for more than a hundred years. My parents went to the finest convent schools in Lahore.

You do not belong to the social class I belong to.

“Don’t play the innocent” is very much correct English. Don’t play this game with me.

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RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
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tu jaanta nahi mein kaun hoon” – Exhibit n

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

You are entitled to your views on English. I think they are wrong. And ironically this whole blog is being run in English.

English is the language of Shakespeare, Austin, Dickens.

I will not stand for my social class being mocked. BB has called me a “taxi driver” and said that I ride a “motorcycle”.

In that context, I bring up the facts that my family were doctors and lawyers under the British. We are not chauffeurs. Rather, we have chauffeurs.

This is simply a fact.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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Pakistanis have an identity crisis. Not having much to inspire them, they look to other people for inspiration.

Kabir looks to England and America. Some look to Saudi etc etc.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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@XTM: This is once again personal trolling.

I am not anyone’s driver. I have a driver.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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Thank you.

There is really no need for it and it doesn’t add anything substantive to the conversation.

Kabir
1 month ago
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“Two hoppers please”– This is incredibly offensive.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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If he is allowed to troll people, we should be allowed to troll him back.

But that’s going to lead to a very bad place.

RecoveringNewsJunkie
RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
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I don’t think I have ever asked for Kabir’s……..silliness to be moderated. Because I do not believe in censorship, and to be blunt, his childish ‘attacks’ hurt his own credibility and don’t really bother me. His personal insults and rudeness demonstrate his prejudice and agenda effectively.

I think a ..spirited discussion has space for disagreement, and calling out of the counterparty’s position, biases and logical fallacies. Only the immature fail to do that with civility and resort to …silliness.

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Kabir
1 month ago

“personal insults and rudeness”– You used the word “taqqiya” towards a Muslim. That is Islamophobia.

You constantly question my center-left credentials. You showed great disrespect towards musicology.

I’m not going to forget. The list goes on.

Anyone who uses terms like “hate boner” in the public sphere has no business ever complaining about anyone else’s “rudeness”.

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Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I have repeatedly asked RNJ to desist from interacting with me.

I have a right to bring up his record each time he accuses me of “rudeness”.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

So it’s not acceptable to speak about India’s military losses (which I’m not defending) but celebrating Pakistani and Muslim deaths is less egregious?

This is a bit of a double standard.

BB and RNJ come here only to troll Pakistan and/or to troll me personally. Any neutral party will have noticed this pattern.

Kabir
1 month ago
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It is not acceptable to take Muslim deaths lightly. BB repeatedly does this.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Of course. I don’t expect you to.

BB repeatedly tests red lines even when he knows perfectly well what they are. He clearly has no respect for me but one would think he would have some respect for you.

This is why I protested his being made “author”. Anyway….

Btw, where is Gaurav? I thought he was an “editor”?

sbarrkum
1 month ago
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but of course it goes without saying India has been the military victor in every conflict in the Subcontinent outside of the China encounters

In SL it was India that lost badly. The IPKF left with their tail between their legs. Then the LTTE went into India and killed Rajiv Gandhi with the help of Indian Tamils.

That was in retaliation of all the rapes of SL Tamil women by the IPKF

You can check the deaths of IPKF in the wiki below

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Peace_Keeping_Force

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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@X.T.M – Glorifying the death of an Indian PM. Please delete.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  Bombay Badshah

badshah
Poor little cry baby.
If you like making nasty comments take the answers like a man, not a wimp.

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Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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@X.T.M – Please delete this comment

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago

Pakistan might not collapse but they will get poorer vis a vis India and those will have effects.

As much as plays the anti-India heel here, SL is very pro India.

Recently there was a cricket match between Ind-Pak in SL. Pakistani nationals had to apply for a visa and wait for approval. Indians, on the other hand? Just book a ticket and fly in. No visa required.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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Yup. Largest in SL, 2nd or 3rd in Thailand.

Will be no 1 in all of SE Asia in 10-15 years.

Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia are all visa-free. Indonesia VOA. Vietnam e-visa.

I expect Europe, Latin America, Japan, Korea, Australia/NZ etc to be visa free by the 2040s.

Basically as strong as the Malaysian passport.

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sbarrkum
1 month ago
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Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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sbarrkum
1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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Please, let’s not get into comments about peoples’ in-laws.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  Bombay Badshah

But we still have a higher HDI than India.

Here is wiki to prove my point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_prevalence_of_open_defecation

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Not greater than South Indian states.

These are old figures you are using.

This is 2026.

South Indian states have greater HDI/gdp pci with much larger populations.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
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bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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You are making the argument.

You give us the numbers.

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sbarrkum
1 month ago
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India’s Urban Water Crisis: Sewage in Taps, Deaths Across Citieshttps://youtu.be/MKreipm7qH8

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Let’s not get into “street shitting”. BB is trolling but there are some lines that shouldn’t be crossed.

@XTM: BB calling Sbarr “boy” is reminiscent of racist Whites referring this way to African-Americans.

BB has nothing better to do than to troll me and Sbarr. Simply because he doesn’t like Pakistanis and Sri Lankans.

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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Naah, I like Lankans and they like Indians too.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  bombay_badshah

He has a perspective based on India’s interference in SL’s internal affairs.

I am “public enemy number one” on this blog and Sbarr is “public enemy number 2”. It is what it is. But it certainly is a comment on the intellectual quality of people who comment on BP.

You are an author now (however misguided I think that is). Please move beyond trolling individuals.

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bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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1 month ago
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sbarrkum
1 month ago
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1 month ago
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1 month ago
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1 month ago
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sbarrkum
1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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I have no complex about not being White. The last time I thought about this I was seven years old and thought being blond and blue-eyed would help me fit in better in the US. Some of us do grow up and move beyond that.

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bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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sbarrkum
1 month ago
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You aren’t American, boy. Don’t hide behind wignat talking points.

Thanks Kabir, did not notice the “Boy”

Incidentally “wignat” is A more openly Nazi white nationalist. Had to look it up.

Quinn Dale the comedian in anything but that.

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1 month ago
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Kabir
1 month ago
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bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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South Indian states are richer (just like North India is richer than Pakistan)

sbarrkum
1 month ago
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South Indian states are richer (just like North India is richer than Pakistan)

South Indians (Tamil Nadu and Kerala) are like Sri Lankans. More AASI and egalitarian

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bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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sbarrkum
1 month ago
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SL got its ass saved by india.

India keeps giving us loans. Does not want China to step in, Thats the reality

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1 month ago
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1 month ago
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bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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Please ask sbkarrum to as well and remove his comments as well.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
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1 month ago
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1 month ago
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sbarrkum
1 month ago
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Sbarr please don’t insult India as I find that personally very offensive

XTM You care about insults. I care about what India did to Sri Lanka. Sponsored the LTTE terrorist SL ended up with a 30 year civil war.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
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Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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I meant as a tourist hotspot. You were the one whose mind wandered to prostitution and gambling.

I didn’t even know there was a Thailand like scene in Sri Lanka.

Projecting too much.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  Bombay Badshah

I meant as a tourist hotspot.

Most Indian “tourists” are single middle aged men hitting the casinos with the intention of sampling “fair and lovely” Thai and Filipino hostesses.

Most of the younger demographic dont visit the big tourist hot spots, the beaches. Simple reason most Indians cant swim. They also dont want to get dark skinned.

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Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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@X.T.M – delete this please

sbarrkum
1 month ago
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Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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@X.T.M – delete this please

sbarrkum
1 month ago

Iran however is undoubtedly the underdog in this fight. It can not win a war against a country that is several thousand miles away from its shores. The damage a sustained U.S. air campaign will cause will be real and very painful. The real threat is not a one off campaign but a constant deterioration of the Iranian state should the U.S. decide to wage a long campaign of attrition against it as it did against Iraq between the two Gulf wars.

The only way to prevent that is for Iran to use the economic power that comes with its control of the Strait of Hormuz. A blockade of the Strait would raise global oil prices to the north of $100 per barrel. With energy prices going through the roof, and the collateral economic damage cause by it, the chance of the Republicans winning the midterms will go down to nil.

It is doubtful though that Trump still cares about that.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2026/02/u-s-israel-ready-to-strike-at-iran.html

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Yes, I’m very concerned about Iran.

I’m planning to read and review Vali Nasr’s book Iran’s Grand Strategy.

This is why I said that there are plenty of other issues in the world than “India vs. Pakistan”.

sbarrkum
1 month ago

The US is in “active negotiations” with India, which it hopes to persuade to import oil from Venezuela instead of Russia, the American ambassador in New Delhi has said.

If India surrenders to big daddy USA it is big loss. Heavy Venezuelan oil is VERY HARD to refine. Existing refineries in India will have to be re configured. Huge capital expense.

Even US oil companies are backing away from investing and repairing existing Venezuelan Refineries because of the large cpital needed

https://www.rt.com/news/632836-us-india-oil-venezuela/

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bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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Except for the fact that Indian refineries can already process it.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
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Not quite as simple as that

Overall, a complete pivot away from Russia could raise India’s import bill by $9bn to $11bn – an amount roughly equal to India’s federal health budget – per year, according to Kpler.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2026/2/4/can-india-switch-from-russian-to-venezuelan-oil-as-trump-wants

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
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Al jazeera lol

RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
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I trust the math of Indian accountants on whether the net-net cost-benefits are in India’s favor, over….propaganda.

sbarrkum
1 month ago

It is very expensive being Big Daddy Policeman to the world.

Now we have some number as to what the US owes to the UN.

The money (160 million) is a small fraction of the $2.19 billion the US reportedly owes for the UN regular budget and $2.4 it owes for current and past peacekeeping missions. The US is responsible for around 95% of the overdue payments to the UN’s regular budget,

https://www.rt.com/news/632850-us-massive-un-debt/

sbarrkum
1 month ago

Guess who is Trumps Big Daddy, Gods Chosen Ones who should not be names.

All in retaliation for Issuing arrest warrants to Netanyahu and other Israelis.

Since Trump returned to power last year, his administration has worked steadily to hobble the Hague-based court. To date, 11 of the court’s officials – including the chief prosecutor and eight judges – have been placed under sanctions

When the Canadian Kimberly Prost learned Donald Trump’s administration had imposed sanctions on her, it came as a shock.

For years, she has sat as a judge at the international criminal court, weighing accusations of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity; now she is on the same list as terrorists and those involved in organised crime. “It really was a moment of a bit of disbelief,” she said.

The fallout was both material and psychological. As her credit cards, Amazon and Google accounts were cancelled, she reeled from what she described as a “direct and flagrant attack” on one of the world’s most prominent courts.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2026/feb/18/international-criminal-court-icc-judges-trump-sanctions?

sbarrkum
1 month ago

Guess who is Trumps Big Daddy, Gods Chosen Ones who should not be names.

All in retaliation for Issuing arrest warrants to Netanyahu and other Israelis.

Since Trump returned to power last year, his administration has worked steadily to hobble the Hague-based court. To date, 11 of the court’s officials – including the chief prosecutor and eight judges – have been placed under sanctions

When the Canadian Kimberly Prost learned Donald Trump’s administration had imposed sanctions on her, it came as a shock.

For years, she has sat as a judge at the international criminal court, weighing accusations of war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity; now she is on the same list as terrorists and those involved in organised crime. “It really was a moment of a bit of disbelief,” she said.

The fallout was both material and psychological. As her credit cards, Amazon and Google accounts were cancelled, she reeled from what she described as a “direct and flagrant attack” on one of the world’s most prominent courts.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2026/feb/18/international-criminal-court-icc-judges-trump-sanctions?

sbarrkum
1 month ago

Article written by a young 40 something Sri Lankan who grew up in Canada.

The spoil behavior isn’t limited to Indian soil. Indian owners in the Hundred league in England and the South African league have effectively banned Pakistanis as well. Only for the players nationality, or religion really. It’s honestly disgusting. It’s not in the spirit of cricket at all. India has risen to the pinnacle of the sport, but they’re being terrible sports about it, and it tells.

More people are getting into the game, but at the same time India is actively pushing Muslim countries and Muslim players out, which is a same. Sport is supposed to be an escape from real divisions into artificial ones, but there’s no escaping India when it comes to cricket. People call the International Cricket Council the Indian Cricket Council as a joke, and it’s no joke.

As I’ve said, there are many Indias, and you simply don’t have this petulant prejudice in Tamil Nadu and Kerala. It’s a North Indian thing, but it unfortunately infects the national team, which has now become a vehicle for this toxic nationalism.

Not Cricket: How Indian Racism Is Infecting The Sport
https://indi.ca/not-cricket-how-indian-racism-is-infecting-the-sport/

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
1 month ago
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Naah.

Pakistani origin players play ipl as do pakistani ex-citizens who have surrendered their passport.

RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

>you simply don’t have this petulant prejudice in Tamil Nadu and Kerala. It’s a North Indian thing,

Yet again, we have Barr leaking his personal prejudice, when facts very easily point to the oppposite. For more than a decade, Sri Lankan cricketers in the IPL were de facto banned from playing in Chennai, Tamil Nadu due to the violence inflicted on Tamil Lankans. I’m quite surprised that you are unaware of this. But then again, when it comes to prejudice, its almost always fueled more by ignorance than facts.

RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I am challenging his oft-repeated, subjective, inaccurate prejudicial trolling on the so-called North Indians being “different” and “evil”. This exchange is highly clear, not sure how you are missing my point.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

This is exactly why I banned RNJ and BB from my threads. I know that it’s not “freedom of speech” but I got tired of dealing with anti-Pakistan comments and/or personal trolling. If they calm down in future, I may rethink that policy.

In general, I think the constant “India vs. Pakistan” thing is getting rather repetitive.

sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

genocide is not a legal definition).

I think you are becoming like Trump, Laws, Rules all being thrown out.

Genocide is a strict legal definition under international law, defined by the 1948 UN Genocide Convention and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. It requires the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

The context is that the Indian commenters constantly use the term “Bangladesh genocide”. This is done only to trigger me as the only Pakistani on this forum.

“Bangladesh genocide” is an Indian and Bangladeshi term. It is used for political reasons. It’s not objectively determined.

That’s what XTM is referring to.

Bombay Badshah
1 month ago
Reply to  Kabir

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Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Yes.

In the case of 1971, the use of this word is political and not objective.

It is very triggering to Pakistanis.

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
1 month ago
Reply to  Kabir

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Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  bombay_badshah

I think you are trolling me but just this once I’ll answer this question as if you are operating in good faith:

Of course, there are many Israelis who don’t want the events of the past two years referred to as “genocide”. I prefer not to make this into a religious issue since there are many Jews around the world who do recognize it as a genocide.

The International Court of Justice has recognized that Israel has committed genocide in Gaza. People are literally buried under rubble. Children have starved to death.

Gaza is internationally recognized as Occupied Territory.

East Pakistan was unequivocally part of Pakistan. What happened there was a civil war.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  Bombay Badshah

You are entitled to your point of view.

The fact remains that as a patriotic Pakistani, I will never accept the Indian and Bangladeshi framing of “genocide”. It was a civil war and excesses were committed both by the Pakistan Army and by the India-sponsored Mukhti Bahini.

XTM has asked you to desist from using provocative rhetoric such as “genocide”. If you have no respect for me at least have some respect for him as the admin of this blog.

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

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RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
Reply to  Kabir

I strongly believe its deeply unpatriotic to obfuscate the mistakes of one’s government. Its 2026, tribal circling of wagons only serves to give refuge to scoundrels.

Kabir
1 month ago

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Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

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Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I wouldn’t say it was Islamophobic as such.

But I don’t think that the comparison between Gaza and East Pakistan was made in good faith.

For one thing, Gaza is internationally recognized as Occupied Territory. East Pakistan was unequivocally part of Pakistan.

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