The settled view of Pakistan, is that it is the most ideologically Islamic state the world has ever produced, and that each decade carries it further into theocracy. We think the settled view is wrong.
The Pakistani elite has quietly secularised. And far from hollowing the state out, this is precisely how Pakistan became what it was always designed to be: the successor state to British India’s Muslims. Islam was the vehicle. Pakistan is the destination.
Islam remains the public language of legitimacy.
Privately, among the stakeholders who actually run the place, the operating priorities are entirely secular. The society on the ground is conservative and devout. The class at the top, the one that keeps the state alive, believes in Pakistan far more than it believes in Islam.
It helps to separate three things that we mean by Islam. There is Islam as faith, the private conviction of the believer. There is Islam as identity, the badge of who one is and whom one stands with. And there is Islam as state language, in which Pakistan explains itself to itself and to the world.
The elite has not surrendered the third, and it has not wholly shed the second. What it has let go of is the first as a terminal value: the notion that the purpose of the state is to realise Islam, rather than to deploy it.
Faith has gone from ultimate to instrumental.
This migration is what we mean by secularisation. This is not the familiar story of liberalisation. We are not saying Pakistan grew tolerant, or irreligious, or fond of gin. We are saying something narrower and stranger. Pakistan’s elite secularised the priorities of the state without secularising its language. Strip away the Islamic vocabulary and look at what the stakeholder class optimises for, and the list is unmistakable: state survival, strategic depth, military capability, sovereignty, national prestige, and the reproduction of the elite itself.
These are not Islamic priorities. They are Prussian ones. What has emerged among the men who keep Pakistan going is a finely tuned, military-bureaucratic nationalism, disciplined and unsentimental, for which Islam is the flag and not the engine.
Prussia describes the temper of this elite.
For the fate of the faith itself, the better analogy is France. A revolutionary creed, once it triumphs completely, turns ceremonial. No one in the Fifth Republic argues about Robespierre over breakfast, not because the Revolution failed but because it won so totally that the nation absorbed it and stopped debating it. The principle became the backbone.
A French republican today need not be a Jacobin, need not want the Terror back, to hold 1789 sacred; the founding is revered precisely because it is finished, no longer a live programme anyone is required to enact.
Islam in Pakistan is travelling that road. It won its argument in 1947. It produced the state, and having produced it, it no longer needs to function as a working programme. It becomes instead the national myth: sacred, unexamined, saluted on every occasion and enacted on almost none. A Pakistani patriot can revere the idea that made Pakistan without wanting an Islamic state, in just the way a French one reveres the Revolution without wanting another. This is why the secularisation is so hard to see. The reverence is genuine and loud; it simply no longer governs. The founding faith has been elevated into myth and quietly retired from the business of running anything.
It is thus worth dwelling on the Crescentiate.
Among the loudest defenders of Pakistan, the most theologically committed voice is almost always the one not born in Pakistan. The diaspora keeps the faith as identity; the Pakistan-formed elite keeps the state. That asymmetry is instrumental. It tells you where belief has migrated, and which of our three meanings of Islam each camp is actually holding.
China conducts cold realist diplomacy and stays militantly atheist; Saudi Arabia conducts it and stays Muslim. Just about.
But look at the content of Pakistan’s realism, not merely its existence, and a state for which Islam was the terminal value would let creed shape its alliances.
Pakistan does the reverse.
In the year since the brief war with India, Islamabad has bound itself, at once and without visible discomfort, to atheist China, to Shia Iran across an old sectarian divide, to Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, and to a secular and nominally Christian Washington. It made its army chief a field marshal, secured a private White House lunch and the warmest American hearing in two decades, signed a mutual defence pact with Riyadh, deepened the all-weather tie with Beijing, and turned itself into the broker shuttling between Washington and Tehran. The creed of the partner is simply not an input to the calculation.
This is the point the diplomatic noise obscures. A devout society sits at the base; at the summit sits a class that will take any table and collect from each guest, indifferent to the religion of the man across it. Such indifference is ordinary in a secular state. In a state that names Islam as its reason for existing, it nothing less than extraordinary. The secularisation is invisible only because nobody troubled to change the language.
Set India beside it, and the asymmetry sharpens.
India bet on admission. The whole architecture of its recent foreign policy assumed it would be the lynchpin of a respectable Western order, the natural partner of the United States, the anchor of the Indo-Pacific. On precisely that axis it was challenged: tariffed at fifty per cent, called a dead economy, told it was interchangeable with Pakistan, made to watch its rival courted in the Oval Office. India did not collapse.
It adapted, with a trade agreement with the European Union, another with the United Kingdom, a wary thaw with China, and an eventual tariff truce with Washington. But the adaptation is the point. India fell back on strategic autonomy and a scramble of bilateral deals because the club it had courted declined to grant it tenure. Two states, two objective functions. Pakistan played for leverage and took leverage; India played for belonging and learned that belonging was not on offer.
Data is not Destiny
Which brings us to BB, and to the data. BB loves a number and quotes them tirelessly: GDP, fertility, the human development index, the metrics on which Pakistan plainly trails. Every one of those numbers is correct.
The error is not in the data but in the assumption beneath it, that prosperity is the thing the state is playing for. GDP matters. It does not. BB reads the masses and the macro-aggregates as the players; they are not.
The players are the Prussian elite, running a different game. The honest question is not whether Pakistan is poorer, which it is, but what it has been willing to trade prosperity for, and the answer, shown again this past year, is sovereignty and leverage, which Elitestanis will buy at almost any price.
Kashmir is Sui Generis
The same misreading feeds the Saffroniate’s favourite fantasy, that Balochistan or Afghanistan can be turned into Pakistan’s Kashmir, a running wound that bleeds the state. It will not happen, and the reason is structural. Insurgencies are not bought; they are lit. They begin with the sub-gentry and the disaffected elite, not with the poor as such.
Balochistan rages only where its own leaders sustain the infrastructure of resistance, and you cannot wire money to a grievance and expect a nation to rise. A broad-based nationalism appears only once an entire population has been activated to an ideology, the way sustained dispossession forged a mass Palestinian nationalism that now commands the sympathy of much of the world.
That threshold has not been crossed in Balochistan, and it will not be crossed from a spreadsheet in Delhi. Meanwhile Pakistan has persuaded Washington to brand the Baloch insurgency terrorist: the very lever the Saffroniate dreams of pulling is being pulled the other way. The Saffroniate is cloaked to it because it keeps fighting an imagined theocracy the Pakistani elite quietly stopped being.
What BP teaches us
We learned a version of all this from our own house. Brown Pundits ran a reader survey, and thirty people filled it in. The masses, here as everywhere, are silent. Even the sub-elite readership is mostly inert; the few who could mount a real counter-current, by starting a rival shop of their own, will not trouble to. Neglect Brown Pundits for years and it roars back regardless, because the quarrel between the Saffroniate and the Crescentiate is the most interesting argument in this corner of the internet, and it has nowhere else to go.
And in the comments, the discovery. Across all the Crescentiate energy, almost no one argues theology. No one is building the Caliphate. No one is much exercised about an Islamic state. Yet every one of them comes alive the instant Pakistan, the nation, is touched. That is not an Islamic attachment. It is a national one.
We are We
Sitting between the two camps, neutral by temperament, we see what each cannot see about itself. And the revealed preference of the Crescentiate, watched over years, is the sharpest evidence we have. On the whole they do not want a seat at the Western table; they are content to be the exotic token, the interesting outsider, and they reach for absurd lectures on the West’s misogyny and patriarchy partly to keep that distance.
The Saffroniate’s commenters want the opposite: the nod of recognition from respectable opinion. We are describing a commentariat, not a census. But the asymmetry on the page is consistent, and it rhymes with the statecraft. The Indian instinct is to be let in; the Pakistani instinct is to be left alone, intact and exotic. That single difference is why Indian commentary keeps reaching for the Western template, instrumentally and without quite saying why, while the Pakistani feels no such pull.
The Saffroniate is still arguing with yesterday’s Pakistan, the Islamic project the elite abandoned years ago, while today’s Pakistan, secular at the summit and Prussian to the bone, slips past unnoticed.
Jinnah, in the end, got the state he wanted. Nehru got an argument, and he is still having it with a Pakistan that no longer exists.

The Punjabi Muslim is ruling something after centuries of being ruled by Afghans, turks, sikhs, British.
He has not really won some great battles against anybody.
The Prussian state was brittle, eventually to be dissolved.
They keep winning vs PTI supporters.
Is this conjecture? How do we know that the Pakistani elite Is not interested in using Islam and being its warriors?
And if what you are saying is true how long can this contradiction keep up? A nominally secular leadership paying obeisance to and using religion as a justification only helps those who want to really create a religious state itself. Pakistan military is not Afghanistan but this double life does not bode well for the cureent state and its leaders.
The Pakistani constitution states that all laws must be in conformity with Quran and Sunnah. Look up the “Objectives Resolution”
Islam is not going anywhere. Nor should it. This is a country where 97% of the population is Muslim.
As long as Pak Fauj is in charge, the religious fundamentalists will not be in control of the state.
XTM is absolutely correct that for the Pakistani “establishment” and elite nationalism is far more important than religion.
I do take issue with the claim that Pakistan is the “most ideologically Islamic state the world has ever produced”. This describes Saudi or Iran rather than Pakistan. Saudi Arabia’s law is literally Shariah.
Is that even true? Jinnah was always rather confused about what Pakistan was supposed to be, was it supposed to be a Islamic Theocracy, a Secular Democracy or a Military Junta? Regardless, let’s be real Jinnah’s state is long dead which is why no one debates about it. It died in the same ambulance as Jinnah did, ignored by the same people that supported it creation. The state we see today is a cobbled together remains of the interest groups which held it together which is a complex of the landowners and the military.
The only way Balochistan or Afghanistan can be turned into Pakistan’s Kashmir is if it becomes a relatively peaceful stable region with occasional bursts of violence.
As it stands, in the year 2026, those two are bleeding a whole lot worse than Kashmir is and the bleeding is already happening in half the country.
The “numbers” don’t lie.
In 2026, there has been loss of 1 security personnel in J&K and 0 civilians. Pakistan has lost 600 security personnel and 405 civilians.
Of course, according to this post, you could ignore the numbers and say that the “Elitestanis” don’t really care about civilians and lower ranked soldiers dying while they are safe in Islamabad.
If that is the logic, there is nothing to argue.
And yet the USA along with France and the UK vetoed UN sanctions against the Baloch which would have led to international enforcement including sanctions against potential financiers.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/insight/us-uk-france-block-pakistan-china-un-bid-on-bla/gm-GM4829BFBA
Like I said in another comment, the USA won’t deign to throw Pakistan a bone now and then – dinner visits, declaring the BLA a terrorist in the USA (what purpose does it even serve? Like declaring KKK terrorists in India).
Small ornamental things which give much joy to Pakistanis but are ultimately shoshabaazi – hollow inside.
But the actual real stuff, that’s off limits for Pakistan – UN designation of Baloch as terrorists which would invite measures against financiers, FATF action against Fitna al-Hindustan, Civil nuclear deals bypassing the NPT, action on Kashmir including the “plebiscite”, action on the IWT abeyance etc.
No one “plays” for belonging. You “earn” it.
This actually kind of betrays your understanding of the “Saffroniate”.
No Indian is under the delusion that India will simply be “let in”. You will have to make your way in and in time maybe even head it. Just like the Americans did in the latter part of the 19th century.
Pakistan does not want to be “left alone”. It simply does not have the capacity to be ever “let in” (demographics/geography/economy means it will never be one of the “big boys”) so it pretends the grapes are sour.
As always, I go to cricket.
Until the 90s, cricket was ruled by England/Australia and both India and Pakistan were “brown buggers”. India by virtue of its cricket economy, forced its way in during the 2000s and 2010s and became part of the “big 3”.
In the 2020s, it is the “big 1” with control of ICC’s chairmanship/CEO position, nearly 50% share of the ICC revenue, dedicated 2.5 month window for the IPL with IPL affiliated leagues around the world, constant hosting of ICC events, five match series with England/Australia etc.
Pakistan meanwhile remain “brown buggers”.
I’ll be honest – your Pakistani connection means you do have a soft spot regarding Pakistan and are not exactly “neutral”.
Nothing else can explain the Balochistan “blind spot”.
The rest of the article is fine but that Balochistan part is so disconnected with reality, it borders on the comedic. Almost like a DGISPR article completely omitting/altering the inconvenient.
The Saffroniate is not the one “cloaked” to it.
If that were so, we would not be seeing cries about East Punjab, West Bengal, Kashmir, Hyderabad, Junagadh, 1971 etc from Pakistanis including ones on here. Didn’t Jinnah himself call it “moth-eaten”?
BB I think we could expand this comment a little and turn it into a post. An important part that we’re missing out on this is that Pakistan is a successor state in the sense it remains just as colonial in its outlook as the British Raj was. It is in deeply unequal agreements with its non-Punjabi provinces with a clear ethnic hierarchy within the state. It has an extremely colonial outlook with regards to Afghanistan even viewing it as a ‘strategic depth’ even when they had limited influence within Afghanistan.
On another note, I remember going to my favorite Indian restaurant in Palo Alto called Zareen and being really surprised at seeing a picture of Karima Baloch hanging there. So it was clear to me that the American policy on Balochistan was clearly more complex than the Pakistanis here make it out to be. As Baloch separatists are well represented even in some of the most prosperous areas of the West.
Yes, maybe I will do one on my own.
XTM is generally a good poster but on some things he does have a massive blind spot which makes it surprising. The PakNationalists are drunk on the Kool-Aid which is fine but to have him make such statements which are completely separated from reality just feels weird.
His Pakistani connection means he does have a soft spot for them and wants them to do well which is the only thing that explains it, I guess.
Things like “who won Operation Sindoor”, “diplomatic relevancy” etc are subjective and can be debated upon.
The fact that Balochistan and KPK are already “running wounds that are bleeding the state” is not.
Things like Pahalgam and Pulwama are shocking to the Indian public because of how rare they are nowadays and invites kinetic reprisal.
Such events are such a monthly occurrence in Pakistan people have just accepted it and they don’t even occupy the mindspace (or the news as XTM says).
Done.
http://www.brownpundits.com/2026/06/23/on-balochistan-and-pashtunistan-and-kashmir/
You can do yours as well which I assume will touch different aspects.