Empire of Incorporation versus Empire of Extraction

https://x.com/sov_media/status/2008919566081273946?s=20

I’m recovering from jet lag but this is pretty interesting. Empires of incorporation (Chinese, Ottoman, Mughal) versus Empires of Extraction (French, English, Dutch).

No famines in Mughal India as compared to regular famines in British India.

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GauravL
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15 hours ago

There was a terrible drought (maybe famine too) in early 17th century. Not sure but Maratha castes see a population bottleneck around 400 years. Either drought/famine or mass killings by Sultanates and early Mughals.

Look up Deccan Famine of 1630; Incidentally the year a young boy was born in Shivneri

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Bhumiputra
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10 hours ago

LOL. There have been plenty of previous discussions on this topic esp. regarding correlation between low HDI and prolonged Turkic rule in the sub continent. The only sub-groups who have rosy tinted views of both type of empires are the who acted as local henchmen.
On a related note of why partition was the lesser of the 2 evils, look at the thread comparing the similarities between India and Nigeria. Basically Nigeria is what that Subcontinent as a whole would look like.
https://x.com/sankofa360/status/2008867066577617187

Bhumiputra
Bhumiputra
9 hours ago
Reply to  X.T.M

There was another QT which said that undivided India would be like Nigeria domestically in the sense that there would be chronic civil war like situation. Not very different from current reality given the overall demographics and the evolving situation.

Bhumiputra
Bhumiputra
5 minutes ago
Reply to  X.T.M

The structural factors are similar though. Only diff is Hindu rather than Christian. But again demographic trends seem to be fixing that as well πŸ™

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