It is wrong to dehumanise anyone. One of the recurring issues on BP is this histrionic insistence that individuals “own” the truth. The truth is broad, multi-layered, and something we all approach imperfectly. No single person has a monopoly on it.
I obviously reject racism in every form; that should go without saying. But I also find it nonsensical to claim that it is a moral imperative to call a racist “sub-human.” That is a classic moral slippery slope. Once you begin dehumanising others, even for views you find repugnant, you simply replicate the logic you oppose.
What I’ve noticed recently is that people are increasingly confusing ego with ideology. That never ends well. This is a blog. Nothing here is existential. We should be able to disagree fiercely without crossing into territory that strips others of their humanity.
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calm down otherwise I’ll remove ur authorship rights
further edit: on second thought I removed ur authorship rights until u learn some respect..
Lol, i don’t give a shit. I was anyway leaving. I stayed back only because Omar Saab asked me to. You talk all this fancy stuff about right and wrong, ego etc but you don’t have the most basic sense of natural justice and fairness. And you lack the minimum level of self awareness to even reflect on it. I will never learn respect for you. I spit on your general direction.
ur quite a charming fellow aren’t you..
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Nothing here is existential. We should be able to disagree fiercely without crossing into territory that strips others of their humanity.
Yes but also Sb please do not outrage anyone’s sensibilities unnecessarily..
Humble suggestion: I think authors ought to willingly embrace a slightly higher code of conduct, instead of throwing their weight around and abusing the privilege. Do better. Its not complicated. When ‘we’ choose not to, we all lose. Nobody wins.
You are editor now btw; you & Niveditan have a license to edit the threads as you see fit.
However authors can manage their own threads; if the Commentariat is roaring for a fight, let them know to shift it to neutral ground.
Of course I am in agreement now of high standards all around but let’s also respect free speech. It is a balance
Don’t act all holy now. You called Indians street shitters and started crying when you were paid back in kind. If anything it is you who claim shudra/black monkey/ape nonsense the loudest here. You lied about your caste and status for years now on BP. You celebrate Rajiv Gandhi and other assassination with glee without any nuance. How do you like if we say we are glad your president, PM, multiple MPs became tomato sauce on the wall as well! You can’t live at peace with ‘neutral’ XTM on Bahai-ism re Zionism. You create controversy and crave attention, posting nonsense naked capitalism articles and propaganda.
I can both support Palestinian and Jewish coexistence in the Holy Land?
Is that a contradiction?
Yes Sb should calm the rhetoric; I haven’t paid close attention but that’s why I have editors to curate anything offensive
Omar has anyway downgrade Sb to contributor for the time being
If anything it is you who claim shudra/black monkey/ape nonsense
First a liitle background. Sri Lankan Tamils are about 12% of the population. Thats a little over 2 million. Of that the Vellala (Shudra farmer caste) is about 50%.
The Northern part of Sri Lanka does not have much rain or water. So no big agricultural land. What gave the SL Tamils a big advantage was English Education. This was because in the 1850’s the American Missionaries built schools all over Jaffna By 1900’s many had emigrated to British Malaya to man white collar jobs. One such was S. Rajaratnams parents. S. Rajaratnam became Deputy PM of Singapore My grandmothers brother also did long stint in Malaya as a Lawyer. Two cousins of my father also emigrated in the 1930’s. The grand daughter of one such is a reasonably well known singer in Malaysia and Singapore (YouTube Link below)
Attached is a photo of my fathers cousin (same surname). Yes we are very very black. I am a little light skinned because I have a Irish Great Grandmother. I have no problem being called a Black Monkey Ape as many Indo Aryan Indians refer to people in Deep South India
Rena Barr
https://youtu.be/s63ht3dWIlY
‘I have no problem being called a Black Monkey Ape as many Indo Aryan Indians refer to people in Deep South India’
Who calls them this? No one else but you! Only you do it day in and day out.
You want to run with the hares and hunt with the hounds. One minute you want to abuse NIs who don’t even know your problem and side with dravidian Tamils, another minute you jump to abuse Tamil dravidians who condoned the LTTE. You took so much from Americans and now shill for the Chinese. Your ancestors really jumped ship and collaborated with colonizers as well. There is nothing to be proud about this.
‘Vellala (Shudra farmer caste)’ this kind of ‘shudra’ identification means nothing! Were they dalit or untouchable? only then does listening to them matters. Tamil middle castes are frauds who have weaponized caste and regionalism for their ends. In SL their antics got them the pointy end of the stick.
nothing! Were they dalit or untouchable? on
Sb keep your answers factual not hyperbolic please
You celebrate Rajiv Gandhi and other assassination with glee without any nuance
The LTTE was funded and trained by the Indian Govt. Eventually Rajiv Gandhi Sent the IPKF (Indian People Killing Force) to control their proteges the LTTE. The LTTE turned on their Indian master. In retaliation the Indian army killed civilian and raped many women. Eventually IPKF had go back with their tail between their legs. 1,200 dead and nothing to show for it. India’s worst defeat
A year of so later the LTTE sent a female suicide bomber to Tamil Nadu. That was the end of Rajiv Gandhi
No different to what happened to Indira Gandhi by the Sikhs. T
How do you like if we say we are glad your president, PM, multiple MPs became tomato sauce on the wall
Many did, thanks to you Indian Trained LTTR Suicide bombers (all women). That includes President Premadasa and Foreign Minister Lakshman Kadirgamar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Peace_Keeping_Force#Sexual_violence
Major Abhay Sapru on LTTE (Tamil Tigers) Explained In 18 minutes by Indian Commando.
1:32 shattered the myth of the Martial Races, Gurkhas , Sikhs
One of the training camps was in Chakarata, in Uttarakhand state up in the Himalayas. Thats asbout 100 km north of Deheradun, the capital of Uttarakhan. Population 800 million about the size of Colombo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuzM7iHm8U
A little bit of history for you.
The attached photos are of Dhanu (age 24) and the last moments of Rajiv Gandhi,
Dhanu’s family had all been killed by the IPKF. She was then recruited by the LTTE. Trained by the LTTE and sent as a suicide bomber to Tamil Nadu to kill Rajiv Gandhi
What many Indians dont realize, the Jaffna Tamil who lived thru the IPKF occupation HATE the Indians. They felt betrayed. The Indians who were supposed to help them turned on them killled many and raped their women.
Dhanu underwent months of special training at the LTTE camp in Jaffna. She was taught not only how to properly detonate a bomb, how to evade security personnel, how to embrace death, but most importantly – how to die smiling.
The process of her becoming a human bomb was not just technical training, but also a process of psychological preparation for death.
Finally, the LTTE prepared a team. Another young woman named “Subha” was prepared as a backup suicide bomber. The other members of the team, Robert Payas, Jayakumar, Santhan, Nalini, Ravichandran, were responsible for supporting activities such as renting houses, arranging communication facilities, and arranging transportation.
Your shitposting is unbearable. You are now posting captioned images with falsehoods or half-truths to appear credible. You want to drag me to an area I know little about. But here goes:
This claim appears often in media stories, memoirs, and oral accounts, but:
No official investigation—Indian or Sri Lankan—confirmed it.
The Jain Commission report does not validate the claim.
LTTE did not provide verifiable evidence that her family died in IPKF action.
Some LTTE sympathizers and propaganda writers with anti-India animus, like yourself, have claimed that Dhanu’s motivation was partly linked to personal loss during the Indian Peace Keeping Force (IPKF) operations in Sri Lanka (1987–1990), but these accounts remain unverified and are not supported by factual documentation.
Her father died of asthama in 1975, He was a significant influence on the Tamil militant movement and was considered a mentor to Prabhakaran the leader of the LTTE. The lady joined LTTE at 12-14 years old, perhaps 5+ years before IPKF went to SL.
Count deaths and rapes by IPKF vs SL army:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_violence_against_Tamils_in_Sri_Lanka
You want to drag me to an area I know little about
I am glad you admit that.
The Jaffna Tamils HATE the Indians more than the Sinhalese.
Some LTTE sympathizers and propaganda writers with anti-India animus, like yourself
I hope you notice that India does not support any UN war crimes investigation against SL.
Simple: There is a good possibility India could face War Crimes charges as well.
No acceptance about posting half truths.
Then all these got what they deserved as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_assassinated_by_the_Liberation_Tigers_of_Tamil_Eelam
Then all these got what they deserved as well:
The work of the Indian Trained and funded Terrorists.the LTTE
This is what I point to others as your glee about India’s suffering.
Then ofcourse Sri Lankas seethe when we point their bad karma, was it what the Don Stephen Senanayake did with lands or was it something done by actual colonizer-collaborator-christian to devout Buddhist class mirroring your family: Solomon West Ridgeway Dias Bandaranaike? who amassed a lot of bad karma in Yama’s books when he enacted Sinahala only act of 1956.
It takes a lot of bad Karma to amass this kind of death toll:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_civil_war
Indian losses in Kashmir are not even a tenth of this. Probably hundred times less in per capita terms.
I suppose not being a backstabber like Premadasa will help with Sri Lanka’s karma. Was it bad karma, 2019 Easter?
I edited the points about Karma to just keep tot he facts
edit: just keep to the facts
It is still there
I edited the points about Karma to just keep tot he facts
Then ofcourse Sri Lankas seethe when we point their bad karma,
who amassed a lot of bad karma in Yama’s books when he enacted Sinahala only act of 1956.
done by actual colonizer-collaborator-christian to devout Buddhist class mirroring your family:
Can I make a comment about Patel Motel owners renting out dirty rooms by the hour,
Then of course Sri Lankas seethe
Sri Lankans dont seethe. We have drink
edit: Sbarrkum I have asked you now to calm
XTM
Indias subversive training and support for LTTE terrorists ended up with a 30 year civil war in Sri Lanka,
Many citizens and top Politician were killed, An entire future generation
Nothing to be calm about when an Indian like to justify what India did
I suppose not being a backstabber like Premadasa will help with Sri Lanka’s karma.
Did India expect Premadasa to support. Right from the beginning he opposed Indian Intervention. So when the LTTE attacked the IPKF Premadasa stood by his countrymen.
When an outsider intervene in a family fight, the family join together and support
I edited your points about Karma.
Keep to the fact please Sb
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Sb please don’t write “got what they deserved” that is inflammatory. Stick to the facts
Request to Naresh Patel, Archer: stop feeding the two trolls. You don’t want to get dragged into wrestling in the mud.
It is inappropriate to label two people who have been long associated with this blog and are authors “trolls”.
You may not approve of our political positions but that doesn’t make us “trolls”. You on the other hand are writing under a pseudonym.
Ultimately XTM is in charge. He values the contributions that Sbarrkum and I make.
Kabir you know that I don’t like tit-for-tat exchanges. more signal less heat
I am trying to understand where and what to intervene
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