Hans Zimmer and the Polite Dismissal of the Ramayana

When producer Namit Malhotra began explaining the Ramayana to Hans Zimmer, the legendary composer cut him off:

“You don’t have to explain it to me. Something that has lasted thousands of years clearly has meaning. Let’s just do our best. It’s beyond us.”

Malhotra took this as reverence. In fact, it was erasure.

No serious Western artist would score The Ten Commandments or Schindler’s List without knowing the story. Imagine a composer saying, “Don’t explain the Illiad to me, it’s beyond me.” They’d be fired. But when it comes to Indian epics? The bar is subterranean. That’s not reverence.

That’s: I’m Western, I’m famous, I’m here for the cheque; not the history. The tragedy isn’t Zimmer’s line. It’s Malhotra’s awe. A Westerner shrugs off our most sacred text, and we call it wisdom. That’s not cultural pride. That’s civilizational confusion. It’s a pattern. Many elite Indians are fluent in the language of Islamic grievance; but tone-deaf to Western condescension.

Divide and rule still works:

  • Hindus thank the British for “freeing” them from Muslim rule

  • Muslims thank the British for “protecting” them from Hindu majoritarianism

Meanwhile, the West shrugs at our stories and we applaud.


Shravan Monday at the New England Temple

This Monday, I attended Shravan Puja at the New England temple. I was unprepared for how deeply it would move me; I had attended it on behalf of Dr. Lalchand, for whom Lord Shiva is her favourite Deity.

The Vedic chants echoed with the same solemnity as the Gregorian chants. But this wasn’t performance. It was something older, deeper; a Divine transmission, not a show. The Lingam was adorned with exquisitely adorned.

 

The Mandir radiated care. And yet I couldn’t shake the thought:

What discount does this tradition suffer because it is Indian?

Because it belongs to a civilization colonized, reframed, and underestimated? Shravan doesn’t demand recognition. It doesn’t explain itself. Unlike Hans Zimmer, Shravan doesn’t say “don’t explain it to me.” It says: “Be still. And listen.”

There’s a strange dissonance here, of grandeur that doesn’t announce itself. Of beauty that expects no acknowledgment. And I feel fortunate to have received even a fragment of the immense Blessing.

Om Namah Shivaya,

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Indosaurus
4 months ago

India is changing. With wealth comes pride and arrogance and dignity. The press isn’t keeping up with the change. They have always been subservient and keening for western recognition, ready to lap up any morsel and wax eloquent about the bone flung at them.

Happily the western press is aiding this along with their editorial ‘slants’.

Much as social media is reviled for the tendency of radicalization and the echo chamber phenomenon it has also changed the nature of media from semi dictatorial or majority dominant discourse to proportional representation. There is now space for competing ideologies to take root and grow even if some of them are toxic.

Tbh first time I’ve see this opinion that Hindus feel grateful to the British for freeing them from Muslim rule. This doesn’t even sound historically accurate. Then again, there is no shortage of foolishness around, now that we all get to voice our opinions.

Ruthvik
Ruthvik
4 months ago

Are you reading a bit too much into it or am I being tone deaf ?

What does he mean by, “It’s beyond us”? Does he mean that he knows the gist of it and doesn’t need to be reminded and Ramayana is eternal? Or something else ?

Indosaurus
Indosaurus
4 months ago

There’s always been this Bombay elite crowd that has half a foot in India and half abroad. While abroad they crave recognition and acceptance, performed by aping the progressive west in morals, language and culture. In India they lord it over the brown people enjoying the servants, the dominance, the hierarchy.
These ‘in’ crowd have been in an incestuous circle of running the press (TOI Midday etc) and the Films (Bollywood).
As the country rapidly decolonises and reclaims/forges it’s identity they are left behind writing editorials bemoaning the loss of the fantasies of their youth and making films which no one wants to watch. Their children strut their mediocrity over screens. Some adapt and turn their lives into reality tv spectacles enjoyed for both the depravity and aspirational wealth.
Meanwhile the country is large enough to have options, the south, historically scorned for melanin and traditionalism is filling in the need for epic cultural glory films amongst others.
News media on the other hand has gone chaotic and cacophonic, the less said about it.

Last edited 4 months ago by Indosaurus
Indosaurus
4 months ago
Reply to  Indosaurus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkEEXK_4Mbo
Check out the 20 min mark. Boney Kapoor gets all defensive and upset before Archana and the anchor divert and course correct.
All self indulgent unwatchable nonsense really, until the north-south, new-old conflict unlocks the engagement virulence. Youtube even gives you a most replayed feature to make life easy.

Indosaurus
4 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

That ends up being the case with South Indians in the picture. Typically South Indian Hindi, if not absent is unfluent and accented (and historically mocked for). English is more of a level playing field.
What struck me most from the clip was the body language. Boney Kapoor is really lording it, sitting that way, waggling a foot in the air, pointing the sole to either side is simply appalling to a viewer.

Kabir
4 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Hindustani– both “Hindi” and “Urdu”– developed from Khari Boli which was the dialect originally spoken in northwestern UP, outside of Delhi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kauravi_dialect

Kabir
4 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Agreed.

Khari Boli only got standardized as “Hindi” and “Urdu” because it was associated with the dialect of the imperial capital (Delhi).

Otherwise, Braj Bhasha was the literary language. Many Hindustani classical bandishes are written in Braj.

Kabir
4 months ago

“This Pakistani theatre group brought Ram and Sita to the stage. ‘It’s our Ramayana too'”

https://theprint.in/feature/this-pakistani-theatre-group-brought-ram-and-sita-to-the-stage-its-our-ramayana-too/2696251/

Kabir
4 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

As a liberal, I think we should own all of our culture.

I’ve never been against “The Ramayana”. I am against its being forced on people. If an Indian Muslim (for example) doesn’t identify with it that shouldn’t be a problem.

Personally, it doesn’t do very much for me. I’ve read a modern adaptation of it (forget which one) but I didn’t find it compared favorably with say The Iliad or The Odyssey. But that’s of course a purely literary judgement.

Kabir
4 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I’ve read a lot of fiction from all around the world. As a piece of literature, The Ramayana did not do much for me.

Since I’m not Hindu and therefore don’t consider it to be scripture, I am considering it purely as a work of art.

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