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The boycott has made Brown Pundits quieter, almost peaceful. I don’t mind it. Every few years the site reaches this point; it grows, gains noise, and starts to feel less like a hobby and more like an obligation. Then it falls back to something smaller and saner.

I’ve also realised that the Indo-Pak frame doesn’t really fit my life anymore. It was useful once because that’s where the conversation was; it gave the blog an audience. But most of that talk is stale now; the same arguments, just louder.

What interests me instead are the wider patterns: how post-colonial societies move in a world that is no longer unipolar. The Gulf’s rise, Africa’s experiments, China’s reach, India’s own breadth. How old hierarchies break down, and new ones form.

I don’t like following the news. So perhaps BP will drift in that direction. Fewer posts, less noise, more reflection. A space for thinking about what comes after the post-colonial age, when the world starts to finally balance itself again.

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sbarrkum
sbarrkum
1 month ago

Never ending stream of children and women being Killed by Zionists

Hind Rami Iyad Rajab was a five-year-old Palestinian girl in the Gaza Strip who was killed by Israeli forces

Defending its actions that day, the Israeli government initially claimed that none of its forces was present when the Rajab family was killed, later asserting that the 335 bullet holes found in the family’s car were the result of an exchange of fire between Israeli troops and armed Palestinian fighters.

Colonel Aharon is already the subject of a criminal complaint at the International Criminal Court (ICC) filed by the Hind Rajab Foundation, which uses social media footage captured by Israeli soldiers during operations in Gaza as the basis for war crimes prosecutions.

Al Jazeera documentary reveals new evidence in Hind Rajab family’s killing

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/21/new-al-jazeera-documentary-reveals-evidence-in-hind-rajab-familys-killing

Kabir
1 month ago

Zohran Mamdani wins the NYC mayoral race. He will be the city’s first Muslim mayor and its youngest in more than a century

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/nov/04/nyc-mayor-election-zohran-mamdani-andrew-cuomo-results-latest

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Also, Ghazala Hashmi has won the lieutenant governor’s race in Virginia. This makes her the first Muslim woman to be elected to statewide office in the US. She was born in India (Hyderabad) and moved to the US when she was four years old. She also has a PhD in English.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/virginia-ghazala-hashmi-first-muslim-woman-elected-statewide-rcna242014

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
1 month ago

My opinion on the Mandani win is that the pro Israel sentiment is be lost in US and in NY in Particular.
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accountable for ensuring that New York remains a place where Jewish life and support for Israel are protected and can thrive,

Mandani has been very clear, War Criminals will be arrested if they enter NYC

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/adl-says-it-expects-mamdani-to-stand-unequivocally-against-antisemitism-in-all-its-varied-forms/

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

I think that in NYC progressive Jews are pro-Palestinian.

I wouldn’t extrapolate nationally from NYC.

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  Kabir

I wouldn’t extrapolate nationally from NYC.

We will find out in mid term election in 2026.
There is a big push against Congress Critters who have received AIPAC money/ If they dont get re-elected, means the tide has turned against pro Israel

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
1 month ago

Mamdani attended Bronx High School of Science. It is a Public School (free) but extremely competitive to get.in.

So implies Mamdani is really high IQ

to quote
Bronx Science, another New York City exam school, is attended by students with average SAT scores at around the 99.9th percentile of the New York state distribution, and has produced more Intel Science Talent Search finalists than any other high school in the nation

To the extent that students benefit from social interactions with high-achieving peers, attending an exam school is likely to increase achievement for the typical applicant. Indeed, many argue that
the success of exam school alumni is prima facie evidence of the importance of attending a school
with high-achieving peers.

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/fryer/files/dobbie_fryer_shs_07_2013.pdf

RecoveringNewsJunkie
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

didn’t he get in on the ‘African’ quota though?

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
1 month ago

There is mo “African” quota at High School in NYC

Kabir
1 month ago

” ‘Majoritarian Hinduism must learn from Swaraj the art of self-restraint’: Makarand Paranjape”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THDYEr1ksm

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
1 month ago

The Immortal Cells of Henrietta Lacks (1920 – 1951)

Henrietta Lacks was African-American woman whose cancer cells are the source of the HeLa cell line, the first immortalized human cell line[B] and one of the most important cell lines in medical research. An immortalized cell line reproduces indefinitely under specific conditions, and the HeLa cell line continues to be a source of invaluable medical data to the present day.

Even though some information about the origins of HeLa’s immortalized cell lines was known to researchers after 1970, the Lacks family was not made aware of the line’s existence until 1975. 

In 1951 Lacks went to Johns Hopkins because she felt a “knot” in her womb. Soon after, Lacks was told that she had a malignant epidermoid carcinoma of the cervix. In 1970, physicians discovered that she had been misdiagnosed and actually had an adenocarcinoma.

During her treatments, two samples were taken from Lacks’s cervix without her permission or knowledge; one sample was of healthy tissue and the other was cancerous. These samples were given to George Otto Gey, a physician and cancer researcher at Johns Hopkins. The cells from the cancerous sample eventually became known as the HeLa immortal cell line, a commonly used cell line in contemporary biomedical research

George Otto Gey, the first researcher to study Lacks’s cancerous cells, observed that these cells were unusual in that they reproduced at a very high rate and could be kept alive long enough in culture to allow more in-depth examination

The ability to rapidly reproduce HeLa cells in a laboratory setting has led to many important breakthroughs in biomedical research. For example, by 1954, Jonas Salk was using HeLa cells in his research to develop the polio vaccine. To test his new vaccine, the cells were mass-produced in the first-ever cell production factory

HeLa cells were in high demand and put into mass production. They were mailed to scientists around the globe for “research into cancer, AIDS, the effects of radiation and toxic substances, gene mapping, and countless other scientific pursuits”.[30] HeLa cells were the first human cells successfully cloned, in 1955, and have since been used to test human sensitivity to tape, glue, cosmetics, and many other products.There are almost 11,000 patents involving HeLa cells

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Lacks 

Kabir
1 month ago

“Seven Dimensions of Zohran Mamdani’s Win Hold Significance For Indians”

https://thewire.in/world/seven-dimensions-of-zohran-mamdanis-win-hold-significance-for-indians

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

His mother Mira Nair is about as Indian as you get.

Mira Nair was born on October 15, 1957, in Rourkela, Orissa (now Odisha), India,the youngest of three children, and the only girl.Her father, Amrit Lal Nair, was an officer of the Indian Administrative Service, and her mother, Praveen Nair, was a social worker.Her family is of Punjabi origin with roots in Delhi, and are Hindu.The family name “Nayyar” (not to be confused with the Malayali “Nair”) was changed by her grandfather, although one of her uncles continues to use it.[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira_Nair#Early_life_and_education

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Even his father is of Indian (Gujrati) origin though his family had been settled in East Africa for a long time.

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

His mother Mira Nair is about as Indian as you get.
Mira Nair was born on October 15, 1957, in Rourkela, Orissa (now Odisha), India,the youngest of three children, and the only girl.Her father, Amrit Lal Nair, was an officer of the Indian Administrative Service, and her mother, Praveen Nair, was a social worker.Her family is of Punjabi origin with roots in Delhi, and are Hindu.The family name “Nayyar” (not to be confused with the Malayali “Nair”) was changed by her grandfather, although one of her uncles continues to use it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mira_Nair#Early_life_and_education

Kabir
1 month ago
Reply to  X.T.M

He speaks Hindi/Urdu. In his victory speech, he quoted Pandit Nehru–that’s really going to upset the right-wing Indian Americans.

Kabir
1 month ago

An interesting essay on the Ottoman Empire, Turkey and Israel:

“Oxford Union and the Debate on the Ottoman Empire’s Demise”
https://www.angleanchorvoice.co.uk/p/oxford-union-and-the-debate-on-the

Kabir
1 month ago

Since we were talking about caste recently:

“Dhadak 2: Bollywood’s Bold Reckoning with Caste and Love” by Atharva Salve

https://www.the-edict.in/post/dhadak-2-bollywood-s-bold-reckoning-with-caste-and-love

Kabir
29 days ago

“What Southeast Asian History Tells Us About a Multipolar Order” by Manjeet S. Pardesi and Amitav Acharya

The passing of the US-led liberal international order is not to be feared, and a multiplex order is already taking shape today. The classical eastern Indian Ocean world has things to teach us about the 21st century. So too do other histories, which can assist us in overcoming the biases that arose in thinking about international relations and world orders from universalising propositions that were developed during the Cold War. The global and historical approach to international relations also avoids the impulse to counter 20th-century US-centric theories with Sinocentrism or Indocentrism. The historical eastern Indian Ocean enables us to think about the present and the future in novel ways that might help us make better decisions and build a stable and prosperous world order.

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
29 days ago

If I was an Upper Caste Privileged I too would not want to be Identified as Bihari

Our parents vote by caste,” said Abhijit. “We’ll vote for work.
Singh’s words hint at an unusual shift. Bihar, often a bastion of caste-driven voting patterns, now shows signs of issue-based voting.

The state, one of India’s poorest and most densely populated with a total population of 130 million, has long been a paradox: politically vibrant but economically fragile, rich in rhetoric but poor in opportunity.

For millions like Abhijit, the election is personal. Bihar’s economy continues to trail behind the rest of India. According to the Periodic Labour Force Survey, the unemployment rate among those aged 15 to 29 fell from 30.9% in 2018-19 to 9.9% in 2023-24

Women, in fact, are emerging as Bihar’s most decisive voters. In the 2024 general elections, more women voted in Bihar than men, largely because of migration. Many of them are beneficiaries of cash transfers under schemes launched by Nitish Kumar’s government – such as the recent Rs 10,000 ($113) payment to 2.1 million women – but these gestures have created as much anger as gratitude.

https://www.rt.com/india/627426-mood-of-nation-bihar-polling/

Kabir
29 days ago

“The Great Indian Dream is Over|@BuffaloIntellectual”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5AkYdTyO9w

Kabir
29 days ago

“Behind the Official Celebration of Vande Mataram Is a Reality That Can’t Be Ignored” by Sreejith K.

In the current political climate, where history is being rewritten and communal lines are being hardened, Anandamath reads less like a 19th century allegory and more like a prophetic script. The portrayal of Muslims as the obstacle to national renewal has quietly shaped the visual and emotional vocabulary of Hindu nationalism. When ‘Vande Mataram’ is sung today under the banners of the state, it carries the unspoken echo of that older conflict. The Muslim, once the villain of a novel, now becomes the silent other in the national chorus.

Kabir
27 days ago
Reply to  X.T.M

With all due respect, you are not a Muslim.

There is no denying that “Anandamath” is an anti-Muslim novel. “Vande Mataram” itself is a hymn to Durga. There is a consensus in Islam that we do not bow or pray to any entity other than Allah. This is completely non-negotiable.

“Vande Mataram” was always a controversial song and it is for that reason that “Jana Gana Mana” was chosen as the Indian national anthem.

I believe that every individual has the right to choose whether to sing “Vande Mataram” or not. Far be it for me to stand against someone’s freedom of speech. But for the state to insist on Muslims singing it when they know that many Muslims perceive it to be an anti-Islamic song is problematic.

Kabir
26 days ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Maybe not to you. But when Muslims are forced to sing this song, it’s obviously a “big deal” to them.

I posted a link a while back about schools in Doda district of Occupied Kashmir requiring this song to be sung once a week in assembly.

Muslim children being made to sing a hymn to Durga is extremely problematic.

formerly brown
formerly brown
27 days ago
Reply to  Kabir

There is a consensus in Islam that we do not bow or pray to any entity other than Allah. This is completely non-negotiable.

so qawwalis in chisti darga and else where, sufi dancing in the islamic shrines should be banned. these are shown as syncretic when it suits, but is opposed as a doctrine. this is confusing.
in all fainess muslims were given a choice of homeland to practice what ever they want. all the concessions were given to muslims to avoid partition. but, they intend to enforce these here for sake of opposing the mainstream.

Kabir
26 days ago
Reply to  formerly brown

Qawwali doesn’t involve bowing or praying to any entity other than Allah. However, Orthodox Muslims do argue that Qawaali is not proper Islam.

Indian Muslims are Indian citizens. The state should not make them sing a hymn to Durga. If individuals choose to do so, I don’t have a problem with that. There are other national songs that are uncontroversial (Jana Gana Mana for example).

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
26 days ago
Reply to  formerly brown

in all fainess muslims were given a choice of homeland to practice what ever they want

Isnt that ethnic cleansing.

Kabir
26 days ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

India is a constitutionally secular state (on paper at least). Indian Muslims should not be made to sing “Vande Mataram” if they perceive it to be an anti Islamic song. Indian Muslims are perfectly willing to sing the Indian national anthem since that song is not a hymn to Durga and doesn’t require bowing to or worshiping any entity other than Allah. Of course, if someone wants to sing “Vande Mataram”, go for it.

This issue obviously doesn’t apply to Pakistanis. No one will ever make us sing hymns to Hindu gods.

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
28 days ago

Judaism/Christianity discrimination is by Gods words, the Chosen People. Worse it is not just discrimination, the Torah/Bible advises Genocide, i.e.”Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys (1 Samuel 15:3).’”

This is much much worse than Hindu Caste discrimination over two thousand years. These were not Divine Sanctioned rules, they were instituted by men (eg Laws of Manu)

For the past two years, the 72-year-old has been prevented from accessing her land, cut off by settler violence and Israeli army restrictions. It sits opposite an illegal outpost in the occupied West Bank’s Jordan Valley. The Israeli settlers living there have assaulted and threatened her family, she said, forcing them to leave their land out of fear.

Savage beatings and dying trees: How West Bank settler violence is impacting Palestinians’ olive harvest

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/07/middleeast/west-bank-settler-violence-palestinians-olive-harvest-intl-cmd

Last edited 28 days ago by sbarrkum
Kabir
28 days ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

I am uncomfortable with reducing the issue in Palestine to the nature of Judaism. As noted before on this site, there are plenty of progressive Jews who do not support Israel. Those are the same people who voted for Zohran Mamdani in NYC for example.

The more appropriate framing for the issue in Palestine is that of settler colonialism. Israel is a colonial entity while the Palestinians are a people fighting for national liberation.

As for the point about Hindus: I have been consistent on this site that my issue is not with Hindus as such but with Hindutvadis. Hindutva is a political ideology as is Zionism and both must be fought against. Hinduism and Judaism are religions and people who believe in them are entitled to their private religious beliefs.

sbarrkum
sbarrkum
26 days ago
Reply to  X.T.M

They are doing what the Torah says they should do

Kabir
27 days ago

“Why We Need All Scholars–Foreign and Indian–to study India” by Christophe Jaffrelot

https://thewire.in/rights/deporting-a-foreign-scholar-studying-india-is-contrary-to-indian-interest

Kabir
26 days ago
Reply to  X.T.M

This article was in reference to the rather flimsy reasons given to deport SOAS scholar Francesca Orsini.

Kabir
26 days ago

Maleeha Lodhi writes in DAWN about the proposed 27th Amendment to the Pakistani Constitution. (When the powers that be have lost Maleeha Lodhi you know that they’ve really gone too far):

Seen in the context of democratic erosion in recent years, the 27th amendment delivers another blow to democracy by further emasculating an independent judiciary. There have been a series of democratic reversals under the hybrid government-plus arrangement. Every indicator of democracy has shown regression. Parliament has been reduced to a rubber-stamp, freedom of assembly restricted, opposition suppressed, media controlled, independence of the judiciary compromised and the civil-military balance ske­wed to the latter’s advantage by a ruling coalition happy to act as a subservient junior ‘partner’.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1954232/slide-into-authoritarianism

Kabir
25 days ago

“Ramchandra Guha: The most divisive Indian”
https://scroll.in/article/1088419/ramachandra-guha-the-most-divisive-indian

Both these charges are accurate. Rajiv Gandhi, in 1984, and Narendra Modi, in 2002, could and should have done more to stem the rioting, and much more to provide succour and relief to those who suffered. However, neither Rajiv Gandhi, in 1984, nor Narendra Modi, in 2002, actually initiated the riots that occurred under their watch. By this token, LK Advani is far more culpable. For, with hate and violence already in the air, he cold-bloodedly set out to capitalise on it. To quote Khushwant Singh on Advani once more: “He, more than anyone else, sensed that Islamophobia was deeply ingrained in the minds of millions of Hindus; it needed a spark to set it ablaze.”

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