The Long Defeat: How Hinduphobia Hollowed Out Pakistan

I lost an entire post earlier, but perhaps it’s for the best. I’ve had the time now to clarify my thoughts and this is better to make clear the new policy of just junking comments that don’t “smell right.”

What prompted me to write again was a small but telling excerpt from a recent Dawn article. It wasn’t just that they misspelled “Brahman”; they wrote “Barhaman,” a word that doesn’t exist in any linguistic tradition. It was also the order in which they listed religions. They wrote:

“…revered for not only the followers of the world’s three major religions — Buddhism, Sikhism and Hinduism…”

Hinduism, the oldest and most foundational of the three, was placed last. This is not trivial. Both Buddhism and Sikhism evolved from Hinduism. Yet in Pakistani discourse, so marked by dislocation and disavowal, Hinduism is routinely treated as a junior or fringe faith. This is what endemic Hinduphobia looks like: not explicit violence, but civilizational misordering, semantic erasure, and the subtle, continuous downgrading of Hindu memory.

It’s barely recognized. And that’s the point.

Which brings me to Brown Pundits. As far as I know, only two individuals have ever been fully blocked from the platform: Honey and Qureshi. But even that isn’t permanent. Everyone has the ability to email in, to discuss, to reengage if they wish (though Honey’s bullying of Kabir was beyond the pale). Brown Pundits has always believed in open conversation.

But I’ve come to realize that openness does not require eternal tolerance for disruption. So myself, along with the Administrators, we’re moving to a new moderation model. Voiding will now be replaced by deletion. We will no longer hold space for voices that consistently derail, troll, or re-traumatize others; especially voices like Kabir, who seem determined to drag every thread back into a tired rhetorical war zone.

This is not a censorship regime. It’s an effort to restore purpose. Brown Pundits was never meant to be a battlefield for the same few fixations. It is not our job to continuously hold the center between incompatible extremes. Especially not when one side seeks only to provoke.

And to be clear: I love Pakistan. I’m a patriot. I believe, deeply, that one can love both one’s mother and one’s father (Bharat, Pakistan, India, Iran). That is part of my religious tradition. It allows me to hold both roots in tension, not denial. But love is not the same as enabling. Love requires clarity. And sometimes boundaries.

So let this be a small moment of clarification. Of housekeeping. But also of commitment: to platform serious voices, to protect civil discourse, and to finally say: we don’t need to justify the space. The space just is. And it’s time to use it wisely.

Addendum: On Hinduphobia, 1971, and the Failure of Pakistan

What has destroyed Pakistan, what has hollowed it out from within, is not merely economic mismanagement or geopolitical bad luck. It is Hinduphobia. A foundational Hinduphobia that has only intensified over time.

Where India became more pluralistic (even if imperfectly- not a single Indian Muslim seems intent on moving to Pakistan), and even Dubai embraced economic pragmatism over theological obsession, Pakistan doubled down on its hatred of what it once was. It turned Hinduphobia into national doctrine.

And in doing so, it opened the door to religious and ethnic cleansing; culminating in 1971, when East Pakistan was not just ethnically purged but religiously punished. Were there genocidal elements? I believe so. And I intend to write a post focused specifically on 1971, because the record needs to be clarified and restated with moral precision.

But for now, I say this: any space that cannot pass the SNP test; serious, nuanced, principled, is to be discarded. The role of Supernumerary Administrators is not to indulge rhetorical warfare disguised as civility. We are not here to be gaslit into silence.

To say I love Pakistan is not to say I will excuse its sins. Love requires the clarity to say: this is the truth, even when it’s uncomfortable.

Take, for example, the comment by Kabir: “In response to 1971, we’ll never forget 1947.” That is not only illogical; it is morally bankrupt. The Partition of 1947, however violent, was a spontaneous collapse of order, not a state-led genocidal campaign. There is consensus on this point among serious historians across the spectrum.

Yes, both sides committed atrocities. But to conflate the communal frenzy of Partition with the premeditated targeting of Bengalis (and especially Bengali Hindus) in 1971 is a category error. It is a bad-faith equivalence, and no amount of Western academese camouflage can save it.

More broadly, Pakistan is a country at war with itself because it cannot bear to remember what it once was. It reveres Aurangzeb, a man who not only oppressed non-Muslims but also favoured foreign Muslims over native Muslims; a pattern of internalized subjugation that still defines much of Pakistani elite identity today.

Pakistan continues to look westward, even as it forgets its own soil. This worship of the foreign, Arab, Persian, anything but Indic, is a pathology, not a policy. Some may argue it’s no worse than traditional caste-bound Brahmanism. Perhaps. But it is certainly no better. It is no future.

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Hoju
Hoju
3 months ago

Looking forward to your post on 1971. I have my own views on it.

It’s an event that needs to be centered more in our understanding of the history of the Indian subcontinent. For various reasons that we can get into, it has largely been forgotten.

Indosaurus
3 months ago

I don’t think it is a mirror. You might feel it is as some aspects like identity and polarization are, possibly.
There is a lot of Hindu reform happening at the same time within Hindutva, the BJP and RSS make strong attempts to tamp down orthodox caste based hinduism and superstition, they will exploit it politically but it isn’t the overarching philosophy.

In the interest of secularism a lot of narratives were curtailed, both history and reporting was selectively and quite intensely curated. These distortions can result in an unpredictable backlash, I doubt the Hindutva brigade would have found so much support without it.

Kabir
3 months ago

If you’re going to ban me, you should just come out and do it.

This kind of censorship of views (if expressed politely) is not right.

I apologize for bringing up Partition in response to 1971. Though we all have different historical traumas.

Kabir
3 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

There should be equal focus on countering the outlandish comments of right-wing Indians. It should not be OK to de-legitimize Pakistan’s very existence as has been done here on numerous occasions.

I am the only person representing a Pakistani Muslim POV on this forum. But of course, if that POV is not wanted, you have only to say the word.

Indosaurus
3 months ago
Reply to  Kabir

I don’t want to put words in XTM’s mouth, but my reading here is that you keep throwing the same repeated POV at everything, there is never any variation, same talking points hammered with vigour.
I know most of them by heart now.

Kabir
3 months ago
Reply to  Indosaurus

Well, the other side also has the same talking points. At this point an AI can write them. “PakMil” bad, Pakistan is illegitimate, Bharat Mata good.

So if that POV is valid then mine is equally valid.

It would be nice if posts could be written that don’t mention Pakistan at all.

Indosaurus
3 months ago
Reply to  Kabir

I can’t remember the last time anyone except X.T.M mentioned Pakistan in an article and almost all of the are in response to something you said which he felt needed a long form reply.

Going to leave it here. I’ve made my point and don’t want to engage in this anymore.

Daves
Daves
3 months ago
Reply to  Kabir

as a self-proclaimed “liberal” are you saying that the Pakistani military – the one who carried out the Bengali genocide, and decades of ongoing political repression of Pakistani civilians somehow isn’t bad?

Daves
Daves
3 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Charming??? Goebbels could be ‘charming’.

How is one to have honest conversations about the subcontinent, if we can’t even get a consensus on the fact that the Pakistani military is an organization that sees any Ind-Pak peace as an existential threat. Or pretend that they don’t persecute their own citizens for profit.

Are we going to attempt ‘both sides-ing’ simple truths?

Kabir
Kabir
3 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Exactly. One can criticize the Pakistani military on many grounds but it has never been the ambition of that institution to create a “Third Reich”. Their role is to protect Pakistan’s borders and also to protect the “ideology of Pakistan”.

Daves is correct that the Pakistan Army doesn’t want peace between India and Pakistan. Peace would lead to people asking questions about why they have so much power in Pakistan.

At the same time, Hindu Right politicians in India also don’t want peace between India and Pakistan. An external enemy is a very useful tool for Hindu consolidation. Critics of the BJP are constantly told to “Go to Pakistan”.

Lastly on “simple truths”: there are no “truths” in the humanities only narratives. There is an Indian narrative (and Indians are entitled to it). There is also a Pakistani narrative. I’m center-left. I will never be anti Pakistan Army. That’s way out on the leftist spectrum in Pakistan.

Unfortunately, Pakistan doesn’t live in a nice neighborhood. A strong national defense is essential.

Daves
Daves
3 months ago
Reply to  Kabir

>At the same time, Hindu Right politicians in India also don’t want peace between India and Pakistan. An external enemy is a very useful tool for Hindu consolidation. Critics of the BJP are constantly told to “Go to Pakistan”.

Lies. Proven out repeatedly by actual hisotorical facts from Vajpayee’s Lahore declaration, to Modi’s repeated overtures to Pakistan post 2014.

But then again, this is Kabir we’re talking about. I am not surprised.

Kabir
3 months ago
Reply to  Daves

Vajpayeeji’s BJP was very different from Modi’s BJP. No serious person will debate this.

General Musharraf (not really someone I’m interested in defending) went to Agra for a summit with Vajpayee ji.

Since Modi has been in power, India has militarily attacked Pakistan twice (2019 and 2025). His domestic critics are constantly told to “Go to Pakistan”. These are not “lies” but well reported events in the Indian media.

The point is that peace requires two to tango. You can’t just focus on the ills of the other side.

Daves
Daves
3 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

with respect, it really is not. This is an organization that carried out a systematic genocide and got away with it. They continue to exploit and murder their own citizens, and those beyond their borders, to perpetuate their profits and parasitic grip on their own country.

I’m sorry, the parallel holds. Please point out where the ‘hyperbole’ is.

Kabir
Kabir
3 months ago
Reply to  Daves

I’m not uncritical of the Pakistani Army. Civilian Supremacy is an important battle that Pakistanis are fighting. The Army’s role in “hybrid” governments is not good for the country.

But at the same time Pakistan Army does have an important role to play. Without a strong military, Pakistan would not be able to resist Indian hegemony. We would be just like Nepal or other small countries in South Asia. Instead we are a formidable nuclear power.

Your narrative that Pak Army is the epitome of all evil lacks nuance.

Daves
Daves
3 months ago
Reply to  Kabir

who wants to ‘de-legitimize Pakistan’s very existence’? It exists. Its a nation state in its own right. As XTM has explicitly reminded, he feels very patriotic towards it. Does he not count?

But patriotism doesn’t mean one-eyed keyboard warrior-ing and attacking others. At least it shouldn’t.

I’m happy to discuss the umpteen flaws of the Indian state. From economy to culture. But when we get into historical conversations, a certain level of honesty and objectivity is per-requisite.

Billu
Billu
3 months ago

It’s spelled ‘Brahman’ cause the ‘R’ isn’t halved in urdu.

The Jamia Milia Islamia lists halvening a consonant with a mark, but seems it’s not followed by others; as urdu is new and evolving. With differing standards.

Another is the english ‘Lahore’, it’s spelled ‘Lahaur’ but written lahore cause in urdu there is no ‘au’ ……… you need to know it, kinda like English. But JMI does list the separateness of ‘O’ and ‘au’ ………. again nobody follows it.

As of now, I’m happy even if they list the small ‘e’ and small ‘u’ 🙂

Kabir
Kabir
3 months ago

https://scroll.in/article/1085934/what-the-revival-of-bangladesh-pakistan-ties-means-for-india

India must demonstrate that partnership with New Delhi is more rewarding than hedging with Islamabad and Beijing. Otherwise, old enemies becoming new friends could soon mean that India is encircled by rivals not just in the west and north, but also across its vulnerable eastern flank. That would mark not only a failure of diplomacy but a profound strategic setback.

ritesh
ritesh
3 months ago

And this article by Dawn matches with indian leftists views about hinduism. i think Dawn authors takes inspiration from wire news

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