Pakistan: The Realpolitik State

In a recent exchange, Kabir suggested that Pakistanis often feel unwelcome in our discussions on Brown Pundits, and that constant criticism of their country creates a sense of unease. It is worth pausing to reflect on this. Pakistanis, like all of us, are shaped by history and circumstance. And yet, there is something in the cultural tenor of Pakistan that makes open engagement difficult.

I say this not to provoke but to observe. Pakistan, as a society, often leans heavily on hierarchism, patronage, and a culture of deference. To borrow an old saying about the Somalis, that every man thinks himself a Sulแนญรกn, one might say that Pakistanis often view themselves through the prism of status and validation. This instinct is hardly unique; Indians, too, have their caste-bound privileges and invisible hierarchies. But in India, these structures are embedded in a dense cultural fabric; family, caste, neighbourhood, ritual, that, for all their flaws, anchor society. Pakistan, by contrast, feels less rooted. It is a younger country (with old traditions), with fewer inherited cultural layers to draw on.

This is not simply an abstract point. When I married, we drew freely from Hindu rituals (dual ceremonies, Bahรกโ€™รญ incl.), Persian customs, and Sindhi traditions, blending them into something whole. But I realised there was nothing distinctly โ€œPakistaniโ€ to contribute; no cultural motif that stood outside India or Iran (we didn’t do a Walima, which is Muslim). Pakistan is, in many ways, a derivation: a state forged through separation, rather than a civilization with deep roots of its own. The cultural space it occupies has been overlaid with militant nationalism and, too often, Hindu-phobia (Kabir is so inured to it that he isn’t able to recognise that but on the flipside so is the Commentariat towards Islam).

To acknowledge this is not to deny the prejudices of Indians toward Muslims, which are very real and enduring. Nor is it to ignore the deracinated, secular archetype embodied by figures like Benazir Bhutto, who seemed neither fully Muslim nor fully Western, suspended between worlds and who are the cultural elite of Pakistan (what they give up on their bridge is their Hindu origins; more than being half-Persian, Benazir’s nani was Hindu). It is simply to note that Pakistanโ€™s cultural story remains unsettled & thus interesting.


Validation and Audience

Kabirโ€™s call for fairness is understandable. But it is also true that Brown Pundits need not constantly chase Pakistani validation. The siteโ€™s founding DNA is already marked by Muslim and Pakistani antecedents. Today, however, our audience is predominantly Indian and Indian-American. This is not pandering; it is reality.

That said, fairness does matter. Pakistan deserves serious analysis, not caricature. At times, our commentary lacks texture or nuance, and I do not defend that. But nor do I think it is a hill worth dying on. Pakistan is both compelling and frustrating. It is a society I know well, yet cannot always reason with.

Yet the Commentariat has missed a crucial point: Pakistan has seized moral, diplomatic, and even strategic ground in the post-Pahalgam landscape. From pariah in April to statesmanlike in September, Islamabad courted China, the US, and Saudi Arabia in a single breath. Those five planes downed, almost mythical symbols of both defiance and desperation, seem to have forced a moral recalibration. Few states have thrived so deftly in the chaos of Trumpworld.


Pakistanโ€™s Shift: From Ideology to Pragmatism

Where Pakistan becomes truly interesting today is not in its cultural struggles but in its politics. After Imran Khan, arguably the last great ideological Pakistani leader; the country has entered a different phase. Its leaders are no longer guided by abstract visions of Islamic nationalism or moral grandstanding. Instead, Pakistan has become the ultimate realpolitik state.

This is a striking contrast with India. Prime Minister Modi, for better or worse, is constrained by Indian democracy. Popular opinion shapes policy. Indiaโ€™s deep-rooted democratic ethos both strengthens and shackles its politics. China, by contrast, is free of such constraints, but at the cost of cultural vitality. China is rich, but soulless. India is poorer, but soulful. And that soul, messy, contradictory, spiritual, is what allows Bollywood to exist, what gives India its strange, stubborn cultural power.

Pakistan, in this light, sits uncomfortably between models. It is not fully democratic, but neither is it an outright dictatorship. This semi-authoritarian posture allows its leaders to make pragmatic choices, sometimes brutally so, while its culture remains trapped in older reflexes of pride and grievance. Itโ€™s essentially a GCC state with a serious army but without the oil.


Culture vs. Politics

Here lies the paradox: Pakistanโ€™s politics may be maturing into realism, but its culture lags behind. Ordinary Pakistanis still carry the weight of ideological nationalism, of religious pride, of unresolved identity. Yet the state itself increasingly acts with cold calculation. This disconnect between culture and politics is unusual in South Asia. Indiaโ€™s politics may be turbulent, but they are tethered to its people. Pakistanโ€™s politics, by contrast, float above its culture.

This tension may prove unsustainable or it may define Pakistanโ€™s future. It could become the model of a state that thrives on pragmatism even when its culture resists. Or it could unravel under the strain.


India, Pakistan, and the Value of a Soul

The contrast with India is instructive. India remains a flawed but vibrant democracy. Its poor may lack material wealth, but the country possesses something priceless: a civilizational soul. It is the birthplace of spirituality for the world, the source of philosophies and traditions that outlived empires. That soul is both a blessing and a burden. It slows India down, but it gives India meaning.

Pakistan, by contrast, is still searching for its soul. Perhaps it will find one in pragmatism, in a new realism forged by necessity. Or perhaps it will continue to define itself only in opposition, to India, to history, to itself.


A Closing Reflection

Brown Pundits is not here to pander. Our role is to reflect, to critique, to question. And in doing so, we must be expansive, not dogmatic. Pakistan deserves analysis not because we owe it validation, but because it sits at the crossroads of culture and politics, ideology and realism, identity and survival.

If India is the land of the soul, perhaps Pakistan is becoming the land of strategy. That may be its destiny. And perhaps that is enough.

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sbarrkum
2 months ago

XTM

As a Zionist it might be useful to compare Israel and Pakistan

For a start
a) Both Young countries created by the British
b) Both deeply Abrahamic non secular countries (Judaism and Islam)
c) Both treat original peoples as second class (Baloch and Palestinians)

One big difference I see is that the UN is yet to accuse Pakistan of Genocide

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I actually think Israel is more egregious than Pakistan fwiw

Can you admit that Israel is committing Genocide

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Thanks I thought your Zionist Ideology prevented you from saying.that.

Anyway many in Israel approve of whats happening and approved by the Parliament. It just not Netanyahu. No different from blaming Pakistan for many of its policies

Israel collective is Guilty of Genocide, no different from the European country in the 1940’s

Many in Israel should be hauled to the Hague and face charges of Genocide

I dont think it will happen. Too much pedophilia blackmail a la Epstein

Last edited 2 months ago by sbarrkum
Kabir
2 months ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Absolutely! It is not just Netanyahu.

Most of Israeli society is so far right that they literally do not care about starving children and dead women.

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  Kabir

Listen what Candace Owen has to say towards the end

https://web.facebook.com/reel/1145933557431371

Kabir
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

It’s obviously not the entire population. But by and large the Israeli public does not care about the deaths and famine in Gaza. Polls have been done on this.

Over the years, the populace has become so right-wing that Palestinian suffering really doesn’t phase them.

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Israelis including young boys hitting a woman because she is Christian.

There is a lot of hate in Israel among much of the population. The chosen people of God

Kabir do Pakistanis hit Christian Foreign women.

https://web.facebook.com/reel/1128781055859298

Kabir
2 months ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Pakistan has it’s own problems with Christians–specifically the Blasphemy Law.

Pakistanis tend to treat foreigners (especially White people) with immense respect.

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Aha, now I see the connection of Bahรก’รญ to Zionism

Several of the central figures of the Bahรก’รญ Faith died or were buried in Palestine prior to the inception of Israel. Bahรก’u’llรกh died in 1892 near ‘Akkรก, and was buried near His home in Bahji.
.
Also
Bahรก’u’llรกh gave this task to a Persian Bahรก’รญ of Jewish descent, Mรญrzรก ‘Azรญzu’llรกh-i-Jadhdhรกb. In his memoirs, Mรญrzรก ‘Azรญzu’llรกh recorded the following

I informed him of the coming of Bahรก’u’llรกh and of the fulfilment of the prophecies of the Old Testament concerning the advent of the Lord of Hosts who had revealed Himself on Mount Carmel etc.

So basically another sect that has the Old Testament as its core. Much like Christianity

https://bahaipedia.org/Zionism

Kabir
2 months ago

Just briefly:

I am not calling for censorship of views on Pakistan. I do however think that use of the word “Nazi” to describe Pakistan doesn’t contribute to meaningful discussion.

As you yourself have noted in this post, most of the commentariat has no direct knowledge of Pakistan and have never visited the country. By contrast, I have actually been to India (granted I was a teenager). Yes the “Overton Window” on BP has shifted. It reflects the rightward shift in India as a whole. Pakistan is increasingly public enemy number one. Yes, India is also Pakistan’s public enemy number one but Pakistan is an ideological state. The entire “ideology of Pakistan” is based on the Two Nation Theory.

When Omar was more involved with BP, there was a lot of discussion on Pakistan. While I disagreed with many of Omar’s views, he actually is Pakistani-American and he has family living in Pakistan. So his views on Pakistan at least represented viewpoints that are held within the country–they are not caricatures.

Lastly, there are many Indian nationalists on this forum. They are there to back each other up (even pile on at times). By contrast, there is no one on my team.

Kabir
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Thank you. I already have a successful Substack. And that’s a platform I fully control and one where any comments I find egregious can be deleted immediately.

I differ with your notion of “very understanding”. Being called an “Islamist” is a red line for me and yet it keeps happening. At this point, people know that they are triggering me and they just don’t care.

Saying that Congress voters are “barely Hindu at all” is not a good argument. They just are not rabidly anti-Islam and anti-Pakistan.

YYZ
YYZ
2 months ago
Reply to  Kabir

> Pakistan is increasingly public enemy number one

This doesn’t seem right to me. Far from being number one, Pakistan not even considered a worthy adversary by most Indians anymore.

However, the hatred towards Pakistan has definitely increased – A whole generation of people who had nostalgia for Pakistan have died; terror attacks and social media reporting of minorities in Pakistan have become commonly known.

Make of it what you will. But personally, I think most Indians have delusions of grandeur and India will be mistaken to take Pakistan lightly as it has been proven in post Op Sindoor management of discourse by Pakistan.

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
2 months ago
Reply to  YYZ

I think Pakistan is militarily quite strong for a country of its size.

And it will remain that way due to the way it is structured.

But other fields, not even a competition (the excess military power leads to this).

And the gap will keep growing, both militarily and in other fields.

Indosaurus
2 months ago
Reply to  bombay_badshah

This Saudi deal is going to enrich their military a lot. Paves the way for an Arab mercenary force expansion.

Why didn’t the Saudis recruit Syrian fighters? There are a lot of armed groups left around after the civil war and they seem to be engaging in Druze killings etc, you would think they would turn them against the Houthis with little to 0 geopolitical consequence.

Can only be that comfort factor with Pakistan and their troop discipline and competence is high, the Pakistanis also are often on UN missions too.

I don’t really see any relaxation on the Indian front, lots of negative geopolitical headwinds.

YYZ
YYZ
2 months ago
Reply to  bombay_badshah

> I think Pakistan is militarily quite strong for a country of its size.

I agree with Pakistani military being quite strong. Infact, I would go a step further and say that Pakistan has the best trained infantry in the whole world at present. But its a symptom, not a cause.

The reason why Pakistan punches way above their weight is because a regular Pakistani has way higher pain tolerance compared to a regular India. Pakistan is willing to take losses as long as India is harmed proportionally. While Indians consider Pakistanis beneath themselves. This kind of thinking makes losses very hard psychologically. e.g. How can IAF lose a Rafale to bunch of Pakis (No matter the mission objectives)? While a Pakistani is quite happy to kill one IAF pilot in retaliation to bombed runways and several dozen airmen and Jihadis being deleted by IAF.

This creates a lose-lose situation for govt and military leaders.

YYZ
YYZ
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

May I know what exactly do you not agree with?

Do you think Indians consider Pakistan as a worthy enemy? Just curious of your PoV.

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  YYZ

I think most Indians have delusions of grandeur and India will be mistaken to take Pakistan lightly

Dont know about most Indian, but for sure most of the Indian commenters on this site.

YYZ
YYZ
2 months ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Hate to break it to you but real life is even more depressing. I wish Indian academics and Policy folks could get serious about Pakistani threat.

India has tried isolating Pakistan, and failed. Tried ignoring it, and failed. India has succeeded in past when it actively takes on Pakistan as a worthy opponent and works against it. Perhaps a time for reflection and change in policy.

Kabir
2 months ago

While we’re on the subject of Pakistan, this appeared in today’s DAWN:

“Pakistan’s Struggle For Women’s Rights” by Sara Malkani

https://www.dawn.com/news/1943215/pakistans-struggle-for-womens-rights

Let’s also remember that Pakistan was the first country in the Muslim world to have had a female PM: Benazir Bhutto (twice)

Kabir
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I tried. I posted book reviews and pieces on Hindustani music (my academic specialty). Didn’t get much traction.

Furqan tried. It looks like he’s given up.

Like it or not, most comments come from India-Pakistan back and forth.

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
2 months ago

Did anyone watch the cricket yesterday?

Unreal hitting by abhishek-gill

Indosaurus
2 months ago
Reply to  bombay_badshah

I’ve been boycotting these damn matches. Though at this point it feels like an exercise in self flagellation. Goddamn BCCI.

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

IPL generation finally comes of age. These guys make the Rohit-Kohli generation look like journeymen in T20 cricket.

Next gen is even better. There is this kid Suryavanshi, 14 years old (I am assuming 16ish with a bit of age fudging). Unreal talent. Is even more aggressive than Abhishek.

Archer
Archer
2 months ago

fantastic article. Just one point:

For an overwhelming percentage of Indians, Pakistan has always been seen as a hostile irritant, nothing more. It is not as if young Indians get up every morning wondering what Pakistan is up to. Of course, the establishment has to continue to be alert for security reasons but other than that, there is zero interest.

In this light, if there is a serious, intellectual,Pakistani point of view, then it would be welcome. For example, my interest in brown pundits was kindled by the writings of Omar Ali, who is awesome. I dont think Kabir is up to the task.

Daves
Daves
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Kabir’s problem is emblematic of his generation. Still stuck wishing for the parity that existed back in the 80s and 90s. And in the process, all too willing to justify blatantly illiberal positions in support of the Pakistani Military simply because he chooses to conflate it with the Pakistani state.

Make no mistake, this is an explicit choice. An illiberal one at that.

I empathize to a certain degree. And I’m happy to engage such a perspective, its the bigotry and dishonesty of argument that creates the friction.

Last edited 2 months ago by RecoveringNewsJunkie
Daves
Daves
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Right, its just a cynical weaponization of what Dr saab calls the ‘le-lis’. I can understand the appeal to deploy it, but it simply isn’t as effective an argument beyond those echo chambers that are brainwashed by the 2 nation nonsense…

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Tbh, wishing for the bygone days is emblematic of his generation. And that has been said by very anglicized Pakistanis.

Kamila Shamsie:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/aug/14/india.features116

The subtext was clear: a truly shining India would make Pakistan feel very dim by comparison.

The Nation columnist Amina Jilani says: “Pakistan is loath to admit India even might be a growing power. In local idiom, we think we are both ‘same to same’.”

Osman Samiuddin:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/osman-samiuddin-meekened-pakistan-still-waiting-to-prick-india-s-bubble-830669

When Miandad was bowled, or Sohail, they felt like little hurtful pricks to the great big balloon of ego and bluster on which Pakistan cricket – and indeed Pakistan – had ridden high for years and years over India. Pakistan may have always had wonky governance, but the country was once seen, not least in its own eyes, as more vibrant than the slower behemoth that was India, which was still an idea waiting for its time to come.

Eventually those little pricks began not only to deflate Pakistan but to inflate India. By the time Mohali came round, the existing order was overturned. Now it is India riding high over Pakistan – its economy, democracy, the IPL, Bollywood, its cricketers.

Mohsin Hamid:

Can’t find the article but when he came to Delhi to shoot The Reluctant Fundamentalist he admitted envy of the Delhi airport and took solace that Pakistanis had better fast bowlers (which is no longer true).

And these are all quotes from when the gap hadn’t even become as big as now.

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
2 months ago
Reply to  Indosaurus

What a coincidence ๐Ÿ™‚

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

Now that you XTM decided to “out” Kabir

a) Why dont you XTM give your LinkedIn profile.

bombay_badshah
bombay_badshah
2 months ago
Reply to  X.T.M

I think he is under the impression you have “doxxed” Kabir when his profile (as is yours) is public.

Kabir
2 months ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

I don’t really want to comment here but please don’t post links to my profiles ( anyway I don’t really use LinkedIn)

There are a lot of crazies on the Internet and Honey Singh already managed to hack my email once.

The Substack is fine since it is meant to be publicly available.

I do thank you sbarrkum for your support. The way that people here are very careful to distinguish between the Government of Israel and the Israeli people while not applying this same standard to Pakistan is quite telling.

sbarrkum
2 months ago
Reply to  Kabir

Kabir, I like to be fair and one against many is I think unfair

Kabir
2 months ago
Reply to  sbarrkum

Thank you for that.

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