BP Round-Up / Open Thread

I am doing a round-up of the past 10 posts excluding my own since ordinarily I tend to write more. I try to judge the tempo of BP and when it’s moving on it’s own momentum I hum down and do other stuff. Incidentally I have excerpted the last twenty articles (the pages display ten articles at a time) and I was surprised that in 3 days we generated so much content.

Beyond cultural parochialism: Razib tells us what to read, which is a good thing because he reads alot. I don’t know how he does it!

Revisiting Somnath–A Review: Kabir revisits Somnath academically and I do agree that British historiography somehow intensified Hindu-Muslim political rivalry. Of course it was a complex equation but I’m surprised no one senses the nefarious hands of Imperialism!

Jaydeepsinh Rathod on the historocity of Sanskriti: AnAn compiles all of JR’s thoughts on the historocity of Sanskriti. In the Aryan threads there are some very knowledgeable comments; I remember Allama Iqbal ending his thesis that the reason Hinduism survived and Zoroastrianism did not was because the Brahmins obsessively discussed every detail of their philosopy and mythology whereas the Magis did not. I sometimes feel like my Magian ancestors and I like to hold on to my cherished notions..

Toxic textbooks and social engineering in Pakistan: AMA investigates how the Pakistani psychosis came to be. I myself of course thoroughly indoctrinate in the Pakistani psychosis; I am rather a bit too proud of my Hijazi camel trader ancestors (nos ancetres les Hijazis sounds a lot less glamorous than the Moghuls).

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6 years ago

Zachary, I love Zorastrianism and find a lot of wisdom in it. Many of the words have naad or sound power for me. When I hear old Avestan, it sounds like old Sanskrit. Extraordinary similarities. Some Indologists believe the pre Zorastrian Iranians use to worship the Daityas and Danavas. I think Iranians and the lands north of Iran were part of the same mother civilization as SAARC, Tibet and South East Asia.

Zorastrianism lives still inside India. If not for Umar and Uthman it probably would still be a large religion today.
On Osho, I would be very curious to hear your perspectives on Osho and this particular clip Zachary:
Echo Chambers and Epistemic Bubbles: The Aeon article essentially states that the Echo chamber is a “soft conditioning.”
This is a very good article about the dangers of group think and colonization of the mind that got overlooked by the flood of new articles. Hopefully this article helps those with minds captured by post modernism to break free. Kabir, do you like this article?

6 years ago
Reply to  AnAn

I haven’t read the article on echo chamber but I am perfectly happy with being “captured by post modernism”. Give me Edward Said any day and nothing would make me happier 🙂

6 years ago

“I was pondering over this that the older a religion, the more reliant it is on charismatic individuals (gurus, popes, Imams) to guide the religion. The younger the religion the more institutionalized it is (Protestantism, Mormonism, Ahmediyyah, Sikhism, Baha’i Faith).”

Aren’t all people (atheist, post modernist and religious) heavily influenced by charismatic individuals? Isn’t this a constant?

Eastern religions are by their nature not suppose to be institutionalized. The ten Sikh gurus tried to transcend organized religion. Isn’t organization a function of Adam-ic, Noah-ic, Abrahamic?

Why is the Baha’i faith organized? Could you invite any great Baha’i scholars or could you yourself post a series of articles on the faith? Do you think Baha’i fits well within the open architecture eastern system? I do; but am not as familiar with Baha’i as I would like to be.

Zachary, how would Baha’i react to this Osho clip?:
I find it to be a good short summary of the entire corpus of eastern philosophy, civilization, and culture. [Or Aryanism if someone prefers that phrase.]

6 years ago

Good idea to do a periodic roundup, Zach. Sometimes, there is so much content on BP that things get missed (sometimes it’s relatively static. C’est la vie).

Madeeha Gauhar’s death is especially upsetting not just because she was a great artist but also because Ajoka (which was founded by her and her husband, whose plays I have reviewed in great detail) is a consistently progressive force in Pakistan. Their plays consistently take on fundamentalism. “Burqavaganza” was even banned by the State for being “offensive to Islam”. And this is not that long ago (2007). Even “Dara” was about the clash between the “liberal Sufi” brother Dara and the “puritan, Islamic” Aurangzeb. A reductive reading of history, perhaps, but you can’t over-complicate a two hour play.

I don’t know how Ajoka will go on without Madeeha but they will have to carry on her legacy in her honor.

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