A friend from Twitter (@kartheeque) has written a nice detailed post about the inward turn in Muslim politics in India and its various consequences. It is well worth a read. The original is available at Substack as “The Inward turn..” (he goes by Viduracounsel) He has kindly consented to posting the whole thing here as well:
Preface: A Necessary Discomfort
Muslim political movements in the Indian subcontinent – from the first reformist stirrings after the Mughal collapse to the institutional politics of today – have been overwhelmingly characterized by an inward orientation. Whether the mode was militant restorationism, separatist nationalism, or the quieter but equally consequential demand for communal legal autonomy, the dominant tendency has been to organize as Muslims first, often in opposition to the larger society, rather than as citizens of a shared polity.
This is not to say that individual Muslims have not been patriots, secularists, and integrationists – many have, heroically. Nor is it to pretend that the subcontinent’s communal history has been one-sided. Hindu-Muslim violence has always run in both directions, and any honest account must hold that truth. But intellectual honesty also requires acknowledging that the structural failures of mainstream Muslim political organizations to embrace genuine secular citizenship are real, longstanding, and consequential – independent of whatever provocations have existed.
What follows is an attempt to trace the full arc of that inward turn – its origins in the trauma of civilizational decline, its crystallization in the demand for Pakistan, its post-partition continuation in the form of protected communal autonomy in India, and its mirror image in the steady Islamization of Pakistan and Bangladesh, with catastrophic consequences for their Hindu minorities. It ends with a pointed question: why, even today, do mainstream Muslim political organizations in India react with reflexive hostility to perfectly normal expressions of Hindu cultural and national pride – expressions that should threaten no one who is genuinely committed to shared citizenship?
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Part I: Decline and the Politics of Loss (1707–1857)
To understand Muslim political psychology in the subcontinent, you must begin with a fact that has no real parallel in modern Indian Hindu experience: Muslims experienced political catastrophe from a position of power. The Mughal Empire, at its height under Aurangzeb in the late seventeenth century, was the world’s largest economy and one of history’s most impressive administrative achievements. Within fifty years of Aurangzeb’s death in 1707, it had begun an irreversible collapse.
This was not a gradual economic slide. It was a civilizational fall experienced in real time – military defeats to the Marathas, Sikh expansion into Punjab, Afghan invasions, and finally the decisive encroachment of the British East India Company. By 1757, when Robert Clive defeated the Nawab of Bengal at Plassey, the writing was legible to any honest observer. By 1803, Delhi itself had passed under effective British control. The last Mughal emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar was a pensioner of the British Crown, permitted to occupy the Red Fort as a courtesy.
The political and psychological consequences of this collapse for Muslim elites were immense. They had been the ruling class. They had administered justice through Islamic jurisprudence, conducted courtly life in Persian, and understood themselves as the heirs of a civilization that spanned from Samarkand to Delhi to Dhaka. Now they were subjects – and worse, subjects increasingly displaced by Hindu commercial castes who had no aristocratic inhibitions about collaborating with the new British order.
The first major intellectual response to this crisis came from Shah Waliullah Dehlawi (1703–1762), whose long shadow falls over virtually every subsequent Muslim political movement in the subcontinent. Waliullah’s diagnosis was theological: Muslim decline was punishment for religious corruption. Indian Muslims had absorbed too much of the syncretic Hindu environment around them – Sufi saint-worship, shrine festivals, elaborate practices not rooted in the Quran and Hadith. The prescription was purification: a return to textual Islam, the purging of innovation, the reassertion of sharia.
This diagnostic framework – Muslim decline as consequence of internal religious failure, remedy as religious purification – is perhaps the single most consequential intellectual legacy in subcontinent Muslim politics. Notice what it does not contain: any serious engagement with the political, economic, or technological reasons for Muslim decline; any recognition that Hindu or Sikh or British neighbors might have legitimate claims; any framework for shared citizenship with non-Muslims. The problem was framed as internal to the Muslim community, and the solution was therefore entirely internal.
Waliullah’s successors translated this intellectual framework into political action. His student’s student, Syed Ahmad Barelvi, turned it into armed jihad. Declaring India a Dar-ul-Harb (land of war against Islam), Barelvi organized what was, in modern terms, the first subcontinent jihad movement – a disciplined, pan-regional fundraising network, mass recruitment, and ultimately armed struggle first against the Sikhs, then implicitly against the British, from a base in the northwest frontier. He died in battle at Balakot in 1831, but the movement he founded – its Patna network, its ideological framework, its glorification of martyrdom in jihad – persisted for decades and inspired generations of militants from Taliban commanders to al-Qaeda ideologues who explicitly cite him.
The Deobandi movement, founded in 1866 in the aftermath of the failed 1857 uprising, chose education over armed jihad as its method, but retained much of Waliullah’s theological framework. Deoband’s founders saw the British defeat of the 1857 uprising as confirming the futility of direct confrontation. Instead, they would preserve Islamic civilization through a vast network of seminaries, training a generation of scholars to sustain Muslim religious identity through whatever political storms might come. This was a defensive, preservationist project – brilliant on its own terms, but again inward: focused entirely on maintaining the integrity of Muslim religious identity, not on building bridges to the Hindu majority or engaging with the possibilities of a shared Indian political life.
The exception to this inward turn in the nineteenth century was Sir Syed Ahmed Khan’s Aligarh movement, which at least engaged with modernity – Western science, English education, rational engagement with colonial power. Sir Syed genuinely believed that Muslims could survive and flourish by embracing education and strategic cooperation with the British. But even here, notice the structure: Sir Syed was explicitly building Muslim modernism, for Muslim advancement, in explicit contrast to and competition with the Hindu majority. His famous 1888 speech asked whether Hindus and Muslims could share power after British withdrawal, and answered: no. This was not yet the two-nation theory, but it was the seed of it.
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Part II: The Politics of Separatism (1857–1947)
The ninety years between the 1857 uprising and partition of 1947 represent the most consequential period of Muslim political development in Indian history. It is the period in which the inward orientation hardened from a cultural and religious tendency into an explicit political ideology – culminating in the demand for a separate nation.
Three competing frameworks emerged within Muslim politics in this period, and all three deserve careful examination.
The Separatist Strand: The Muslim League
The All India Muslim League, founded in 1906 by the Muslim elite of Bengal and UP, began as an organization to protect Muslim interests within the British constitutional framework – separate electorates, reserved seats, protection from Hindu majority rule. This was not yet separatism; it was communal interest-group politics dressed in the language of minority protection.
The critical transformation came over the 1930s and reached its culmination under Jinnah in 1940. The Lahore Resolution demanded separate states for Muslims in the northwest and east of the subcontinent – what became Pakistan. Jinnah’s argument, eventually crystallized as the Two-Nation Theory, was that Hindus and Muslims were not merely different religious communities but different nations – with different histories, epics, heroes, gods, social customs, and moral frameworks – and that therefore coexistence in a single democratic state was impossible without Muslims being permanently subordinated to the Hindu majority.
There is genuine complexity in evaluating this claim. It was not pure invention. There were real reasons for Muslims to fear Hindu majoritarian democracy – the Congress Party’s organizational culture was distinctly Hindu in flavor despite its formal secularism, the Hindi-Urdu controversy showed real cultural incompatibility in some regions, and the experience of Congress provincial governments in 1937–39 had generated real Muslim grievances. Jinnah was a sophisticated lawyer, not a fanatic, and his arguments were not crazy.
But the Two-Nation Theory required something intellectually troubling: it required that the identities of 400+ million people be reduced to two monolithic blocs. It erased the enormous internal diversity within both “Hindu” and “Muslim” India. It made religious identity the primary and sufficient category of political life. And it created a logical problem that was never resolved: what about the 30–40% of Indian Muslims who would remain in India even after partition? If the Two-Nation Theory was correct, they were members of a separate nation marooned in the wrong country.
The Composite Nationalist Strand – and Its Uncomfortable Ambiguities
Not all Muslim political thinkers accepted the separatist framework. The Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, the political organization of major Deobandi scholars, opposed partition explicitly and consistently. Maulana Hussain Ahmad Madani, the principal of Darul Uloom Deoband and perhaps the most important Deobandi scholar of his generation, developed the concept of muttahida qaumiyat (composite nationalism) – the idea that Muslims and Hindus were part of one Indian nation united by territory, history, and shared culture, and that Islam not merely permitted but required loyalty to this shared homeland. His 1938 book Composite Nationalism and Islam argued from Quranic evidence and the example of the Prophet’s Treaty of Hudaybiyyah that Muslims could and must live in political alliance with non-Muslims who share their homeland. He was physically attacked by Muslim League activists for this position – men threw filth on him at railway stations – and he persisted anyway until his death in 1957.
Maulana Abul Kalam Azad was the other great symbol of this tradition. Born in Mecca into a family of Islamic scholars, the young Azad was in fact a pan-Islamist and a theorist of trans-national jihad during the First World War period – historian Ayesha Jalal’s scholarship establishes him as perhaps the most celebrated theorist of that tradition during that decade. His journal Al-Hilal preached both Islamic revivalism and anti-British resistance. He joined the Muslim League in 1913. The evolution from this phase to his later Congress nationalism was real and documented – the Khilafat movement’s failure, his encounter with Gandhi, and his eventual theological conclusion that Islam was compatible with plural Indian nationhood shaped a genuine intellectual transformation. By 1940, he was delivering his famous Ramgarh address: “I am proud of being an Indian. I am part of the indivisible unity that is Indian nationality. I am indispensable to this noble edifice and without me this splendid structure is incomplete.”
Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan, the “Frontier Gandhi,” took a third path – not through theological argument but through a practical commitment to non-violent resistance against British rule that he saw as inseparable from his Muslim faith. He built the Khudai Khidmatgar movement among Pashtuns entirely on the principle of composite Indian nationhood, and he spent years in Pakistani prisons for his refusal to accept the two-nation logic – a suffering that gives his nationalism a credibility untainted by strategic calculation.
This tradition deserves genuine honor – it was courageously defended against real physical intimidation, and it represented the closest Indian Muslim politics came to a path of genuine shared citizenship. But an honest accounting requires confronting an ambiguity its admirers rarely address directly. Were these figures genuinely committed to equal secular citizenship as an intrinsic value, or did their opposition to partition reflect other motivations?
Madani’s own text, as scholarly editions note, advocated composite nationalism within a united India “which he thought would be more conducive to the spread and prosperity of his community over the entire subcontinent than any religious partition.” The Treaty of Hudaybiyyah – the model he invoked for Hindu-Muslim political alliance – was the Prophet’s tactical alliance with non-Muslims in Mecca, which Deobandi scholars noted “promoted mutual interaction between the two communities thus allowing more opportunities for Muslims to preach their religion through peaceful tabligh.” The calculus was transparent: a united India provided more fertile ground for Islamic proselytization and community growth than a divided subcontinent in which Muslims would be confined to Pakistan’s western wing. As one formulation puts it directly, “the Ulama’s priority was an independent India where they could practice Islam without fear or hindrance.” The emphasis was on unrestricted Islamic practice and outreach across the vast subcontinent – not on secular equal citizenship as a value in itself.
The great Iqbal-Madani debate crystallizes this precisely. Muhammad Iqbal, the poet-philosopher whose vision eventually inspired Pakistan, and Madani disagreed not about whether Islam should be the governing framework of political life, but only about what the first step should be. For Iqbal, it was creating a Muslim-majority territory where Islamic civilization could consolidate itself. For Madani, it was first gaining freedom from Britain, after which Muslims would be far better positioned demographically, organizationally, and religiously across the entire subcontinent. Both were thinking in terms of Muslim civilizational strategy. Neither was reasoning from secular equal citizenship as an intrinsic value.
Azad’s case is more genuinely complex. His theological work, the Tarjuman al-Quran, attempted to construct an Islam hospitable to other forms of monotheism, including Hinduism, placing emphasis on commonly held rules of righteous conduct – a genuinely liberal theological project that went further than Madani’s tactical calculations. His post-independence career as India’s first Education Minister, focused on building institutions accessible to all Indians regardless of religion, showed a real commitment to the secular project in practice. Yet even his composite nationalism, as the historian S. Irfan Habib observes, was “never simply secular nationalism” – it was always grounded in the theological claim that Islam permitted composite nationhood, not that religion was irrelevant to political identity. Azad always needed an Islamic justification for living alongside Hindus as equals; the equality itself was not his starting point.
This distinction matters when we ask why the composite nationalist tradition failed to generate a durable political culture of Muslim secular integrationism after independence. If coexistence was valued as a condition for Muslim flourishing rather than as an end in itself, then once independence was achieved and the immediate threat of Pakistani separatism receded, the incentive to maintain the composite nationalist commitment naturally weakened. The tradition had no deep secular roots to sustain it – and this internal ambiguity may partly explain why it produced no lasting institutional legacy after Azad’s death.
The Congress Muslim Strand – Named Figures and Their Limits
Beyond the composite nationalist ulema, there was a distinct cohort of genuinely secularist Muslim politicians who operated within the Congress and treated religion as a private matter separable from political life. These figures deserve to be named concretely.
Zakir Husain (1897–1969) co-founded Jamia Millia Islamia as a nationalist, non-communal educational institution and became India’s third President. He represented perhaps the most genuine synthesis of deep personal Islamic culture and fully secular political orientation of anyone in independent India’s public life.
Rafi Ahmed Kidwai (1894–1954), a Congress politician from UP and close ally of Nehru who served as Minister of Communications and then Food, built his career on working class politics and secular nationalism with no concession to Muslim communal interests.
Hafiz Mohammed Ibrahim (1897–1981), Congress veteran and Minister for Water and Power, kept the Congress Muslim wing oriented toward national rather than communal concerns through the formative decades of the 1950s and 1960s.
Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed (1905–1977) served as India’s fifth President, representing the strand of Muslim politicians who treated their Muslim identity as entirely personal and their political identity as fully national – though his willingness to sign the Emergency proclamation of 1975 under pressure from Indira Gandhi remains a permanent stain on his record.
Arif Mohammad Khan (born 1951) represents perhaps the most striking instance of genuine Muslim secular political courage in modern Indian history. As a Congress minister under Rajiv Gandhi, he publicly and passionately defended the Supreme Court’s Shah Bano judgment on the floor of Parliament – arguing that Muslim women deserved equal constitutional rights regardless of personal law. When Gandhi reversed course and pushed the 1986 Act to nullify the judgment, Khan resigned from the Cabinet and quit the Congress entirely rather than participate in what he described as a capitulation to orthodoxy. Few acts of political principle in post-independence India can match this one. He subsequently served as Governor of Kerala from 2019 to 2024, continuing to publicly challenge AIMPLB positions and advocate for Muslim reform from within the constitutional establishment.
Hamid Ansari (born 1937), Vice President from 2007 to 2017 and a career diplomat of distinction, represents the tradition of Muslim public service defined by professional excellence and constitutional commitment rather than communal identity politics. As India’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations in the 1990s, he vigorously defended India’s secular credentials against Pakistani attempts to internationalize Kashmir.
All these figures treated their Muslim identity as personal and their obligations as Indian citizens as primary. None organized around Muslim communal interests in the way the AIMPLB did. Several publicly opposed Muslim clerical conservatism at real personal and professional cost.
But the Congress never invested in building this secular Muslim political culture as a genuine political base. It was always easier and electorally more efficient to manage the clerical establishment and deliver personal law protection than to build a secular Muslim constituency from the ground up. The result was that figures like Arif Mohammad Khan remained isolated exceptions – celebrated by secularists, ignored by Muslim political organizations, and ultimately unable to shift the institutional direction of Muslim politics. The Congress treated secular Muslims as symbols of its secularism rather than as the foundation of a genuinely reformed Muslim politics, and in doing so ensured that the secular strand remained decorative rather than transformative.
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Part III: The Partition and Its Psychic Legacy
Partition was the single most catastrophic event in South Asian history since the Mughal collapse. Between one and two million people died in the accompanying communal violence. Fourteen to fifteen million were displaced. The Punjab and Bengal were vivisected along religious lines. Entire cities that had been home to mixed populations for centuries became mono-religious almost overnight.
For understanding post-partition Muslim politics in India, the psychic legacy of partition matters as much as its demographic consequences. Several things became simultaneously true.
The Muslims who stayed in India – roughly one-third of the pre-partition Muslim population – faced an immediate legitimacy crisis. Their co-religionists had just created a new country on the grounds that Muslims and Hindus could not live together as equal citizens. The Indian state, under Nehru and the Congress, insisted on secular citizenship and treated India’s Muslims as full citizens. But the suspicion was always there, among Hindus, that Muslim loyalty to India was provisional.
This suspicion created a defensive psychology within Muslim politics. The question “whose side are you on?” was implicitly present in every political interaction. Muslim leaders responded by insisting loudly on their patriotism while simultaneously protecting every possible mark of Muslim distinctiveness – partly as genuine cultural-religious commitment, partly as political identity assertion, and partly because the clerisy found community distinctiveness essential to its own authority.
Pakistan’s creation had a paradoxical effect on Indian Muslim religious politics. The most separatist, most Islamist elements had largely migrated to Pakistan. The Indian Muslims who remained were, on average, more committed to India than those who left. But the political vacuum this created was filled by the clerical establishment – the AIMPLB, the Jamiat – not by genuinely secular voices. The moderate secular-nationalist Muslims like Azad had no organizational base comparable to the clerical networks.
The result was a political economy of identity: Muslim political influence in India depended on maintaining Muslim distinctiveness, which meant resisting any reforms – especially personal law reforms – that would blur the boundary between Muslim and non-Muslim citizens. The clerical establishment had a structural interest in this arrangement, and Congress, needing Muslim votes to counter Hindu nationalist challenges, was a willing partner.
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Part IV: The Protected Enclave – Post-Partition Indian Muslim Politics
The forty years from 1947 to 1986 established the basic architecture of Muslim politics in independent India: electoral participation in the Congress system; protection of Muslim Personal Law as non-negotiable; resistance to the Uniform Civil Code; and the gradual transformation of “secularism” from a constitutional principle into a label for non-interference with Muslim communal autonomy.
The clearest window into this architecture is the Shah Bano case of 1985–86.
A 62-year-old woman in Indore, divorced after forty years of marriage by triple talaq, asked the courts for maintenance. The Supreme Court – in a unanimous, five-judge decision – ruled in her favor, applying the secular Criminal Procedure Code. The court noted explicitly that Muslim personal law’s denial of maintenance to divorced women was incompatible with the Constitution’s guarantee of gender equality.
What happened next revealed everything about the political economy of Indian Muslim communal politics. The All India Muslim Personal Law Board and the Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind mounted a massive campaign against the judgment. Street protests. Mosque sermons. Political pressure. The AIMPLB argued that the Supreme Court had no authority to interpret Islamic law.
And the Congress government of Rajiv Gandhi – with a massive parliamentary majority and no electoral need to capitulate – capitulated anyway. In 1986, Parliament passed the Muslim Women (Protection of Rights on Divorce) Act, which effectively nullified the Supreme Court’s ruling and restricted maintenance to the 90-day iddat period.
Arif Mohammad Khan resigned from the Cabinet in protest. The Hindu right, the secular left, and women’s organizations across the country opposed the bill. And yet it passed, because Congress calculated – correctly – that the clerical establishment commanded enough Muslim votes to punish any government that defied it.
The dishonesty was multilayered. The AIMPLB was not defending Islamic law – Pakistan had already banned instant triple talaq in 1961, a quarter-century earlier. They were defending clerical authority over Muslim family life, which is quite different. And Congress was not defending Muslim rights – it was purchasing Muslim votes at the cost of Muslim women’s constitutional equality.
This pattern has repeated itself across every major reform issue for forty years since. Polygamy remains permitted under Muslim Personal Law, despite Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, and dozens of other Muslim-majority countries having already banned it, and despite actual Muslim polygamy rates being only marginally higher than Hindu ones. The AIMPLB has explicitly opposed the Child Marriage Restraint Act, arguing marriage age should be governed by puberty – effectively defending child marriage in the name of religious freedom, a position that would draw immediate condemnation if held by any Hindu organization. The AIMPLB opposed the Right of Children to Free and Compulsory Education Act as an infringement on the madrasa system, even as data consistently showed madrasa-educated children having significantly worse economic outcomes than those in mainstream schools. And when the Modi government pushed for transparency and accountability in the Waqf boards – institutions managing billions of rupees in property, characterized even by Muslim reformers as opaque and captured by Ashraf elites – every Muslim organization opposed it wholesale as an attack on Muslim identity.
The pattern is consistent: any reform that reduces clerical authority or blurs the boundary between Muslim and non-Muslim legal status is immediately reframed as an attack on Islam itself. The political interests of the clerisy are presented as the religious interests of the entire Muslim community.
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Part V: The Self-Reinforcing Circle – Communal Violence, Terrorism, and Muslim Defensiveness
The rise of the BJP and Hindu nationalism from the 1980s onward has created a new dynamic that significantly complicates honest analysis – but the complications run in both directions, and any serious account must resist the temptation to frame Hindu-Muslim conflict as a morality play with a single guilty party.
Communal Violence Is Bidirectional
The history of Hindu-Muslim communal violence in India is long, complex, and emphatically not one-sided. This is not a comfortable thing to say, but the historical record demands it.
Gandhi, who spent decades mediating communal conflicts and was by no stretch a Hindu nationalist, made the observation that Muslims had a pattern of initiating riots – a charge he made with great reluctance and sorrow, and which cost him political goodwill among Muslim leaders. The pre-partition record bears this out in significant measure. The Moplah Rebellion of 1921 in Kerala, though initially framed as an agrarian revolt by Muslim tenants against Hindu landlords, became a systematic religious pogrom in which unarmed Hindus were massacred or forced to convert. The Great Calcutta Killings of August 1946 – triggered by Jinnah’s Direct Action Day – were initiated by Muslim League activists and resulted in an estimated 4,000–5,000 deaths, the majority Hindu in the first days before Hindu and Sikh retaliatory violence began. Historian Ishtiaq Ahmed, a Pakistani scholar of partition violence, concluded from his research on Punjab that in March 1947, Muslims initiated large-scale violence against Sikhs and Hindus in the Muslim-majority districts of northern Punjab – and that the horrific retaliatory violence that followed ultimately killed more Muslims than the initial Muslim attacks had killed Hindus and Sikhs.
This is not to assign collective guilt to Muslims as a community. The leaders who incited violence – the Muslim League politicians who called for Direct Action, the landlords and local strongmen who organized pogroms – were a small fraction of the Muslim population. Ordinary Muslims suffered enormously from retaliatory Hindu and Sikh violence, especially in East Punjab after partition. The point is that the narrative of Muslims as uniquely victimized in communal conflicts, which has become standard in certain political circles, is historically false. Violence was ignited from both sides, responded to from both sides, and ordinary people on both sides paid the price.
In post-independence India, the pattern of bidirectional violence continued. Several major riots – Bhiwandi 1970, Moradabad 1980, Bhagalpur 1989 – involved significant Muslim aggression as trigger events, even when Hindu retaliation was disproportionate. The 1992 Bombay riots following the Babri demolition involved organized Muslim attacks on Hindus and Hindu property in the first phase, before the violence became generalized.
There are, however, cases of clear state-directed or state-tolerated violence against Muslims that deserve to be named without equivocation. The 1983 Nellie massacre in Assam – in which between 2,000 and 3,000 Bengali Muslim settlers were killed by Tiwa tribal communities, with state forces arriving too late – represents a genuine communal atrocity with elements of administrative failure. The 1984 Delhi anti-Sikh riots, while targeting Sikhs rather than Muslims, are the clearest example in Indian history of Congress-organized state-backed communal massacre – important precisely because it demonstrates that state complicity in communal violence is not the exclusive property of any one party.
The Gujarat 2002 Question
The 2002 Gujarat riots deserve specific attention because they have become politically iconic in ways that often substitute symbol for fact. The riots began with a genuine provocation: on February 27, 2002, a train carrying Hindu pilgrims returning from Ayodhya was attacked at Godhra, killing 59 people in a burning railway coach. A special court later convicted 31 Muslims of this attack as a pre-planned conspiracy. What followed was catastrophic communal violence across Gujarat in which approximately 790 Muslims and 254 Hindus were killed according to official figures – the asymmetry reflecting the minority status of Muslims in a state where Hindu mobs had effectively free run for several days.
The question of state complicity is legally nuanced and should be stated precisely. A Supreme Court-appointed Special Investigation Team investigated allegations of a larger conspiracy involving then-Chief Minister Narendra Modi. In 2012, the SIT issued a closure report finding no prosecutable evidence against Modi and 63 others. This was upheld through the Magistrate’s Court, the Gujarat High Court, and finally the Supreme Court in 2022, which dismissed the petition by Zakia Jafri as devoid of merit. The Supreme Court specifically held that a failure of state administration, as may be expected in riot situations, is not the same as state-sponsored violence and a conspiracy to cause riots.
What is legally established: the riots were real and devastating; many individual perpetrators were convicted; the Godhra train burning was a Muslim-initiated attack that triggered the subsequent violence; and no criminal conspiracy by the state government was proven in court. What remains a matter of legitimate debate is whether administrative failures – the delayed deployment of security forces, the presence of ministers in police control rooms during the violence – reflected deliberate inaction or chaotic mismanagement. The honest verdict is proven administrative dereliction, not proven criminal conspiracy or state-directed pogrom.
Terrorism
Any honest account of Hindu-Muslim conflict must also engage the terrorism dimension, which Muslim political organizations in India have been conspicuously reluctant to address with full candor.
Indian Muslims are disproportionately represented among those convicted of Islamist terrorism on Indian soil. SIMI, the Indian Mujahideen, and Pakistan-based groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba have all drawn from Indian Muslim communities for their domestic networks. The serial bombings of the 2000s – Varanasi, Jaipur, Ahmedabad, Delhi, Pune – killed hundreds of civilians and were carried out by Indian Muslim operatives, typically in the name of avenging communal violence against Muslims. This terrorism was wrong, was condemned by most Indian Muslims, and served primarily to harm the very community it claimed to avenge – by generating anti-Muslim backlash, providing fuel for Hindutva mobilization, and confirming the worst fears of Hindu nationalists about Muslim loyalties.
The mainstream Muslim political response to this terrorism has been deeply inadequate. The dominant pattern has been initial qualified condemnation, quickly followed by deflection toward grievances, skepticism about the convictions, and resistance to any serious community-level examination of why young Indian Muslims were being recruited into jihadist networks. The AIMPLB and major Muslim political organizations have never seriously engaged with radicalization prevention – because doing so would require acknowledging that radicalization is actually happening, which disrupts the narrative of pure Muslim victimhood.
Love Jihad: Neither Conspiracy Nor Manufactured Fiction
Nowhere is the Muslim political establishment’s failure to engage honestly with Hindu concerns more visible than on the question of love jihad.
The national media and secular-liberal discourse have treated this as a clean binary: either it is a purely Hindutva conspiracy theory with zero basis in fact, or it is proof of organized Muslim demographic warfare. Both positions are wrong, and the refusal to navigate the middle has left a real grievance unaddressed and a real conversation unmade.
Multiple official investigations – by state CIDs in Karnataka and Kerala, by the National Investigation Agency’s 2018 examination of 11 interfaith marriages in Kerala – concluded that there was no evidence of an organized conspiracy by Muslim organizations to systematically convert Hindu women through deceptive marriages. The Supreme Court upheld an adult Muslim woman’s right to marry a Muslim man of her own free will. The central government stated before Parliament that no central agency had found evidence of organized love jihad as such. These findings matter and should not be dismissed.
However, dismissing the issue entirely as a debunked conspiracy is itself intellectually dishonest. Across local Hindi, Marathi, Kannada, and Gujarati media – the kind that does not reach Western journalists or urban English-speaking commentators – there has been consistent, FIR-backed reporting of a specific pattern: Muslim men using Hindu names, performing Hindu rituals including temple weddings, concealing their identity and marital status, engaging in sexual relationships on the promise of marriage, and in documented cases either demanding conversion after marriage or abandoning the woman. The pattern of identity concealment appears with enough frequency across enough geographies – UP, MP, Haryana, Karnataka, Gujarat, Uttarakhand – to suggest it is not merely a random collection of individual bad actors. Whether it constitutes an organized conspiracy in the sense of institutional direction is a different and unproven question. The individual acts of deception are, however, real in numerous documented cases, each backed by FIRs, police station records, and verified victim testimony.
There is also a structural dimension that Muslim organizations have never acknowledged publicly. Under traditional Sunni fiqh, a Muslim man may marry a Jewish or Christian woman without her converting, since they are People of the Book. He may not validly marry a Hindu woman without her conversion to Islam, since Hinduism falls outside that category. This means that for a Muslim man who wishes to marry a Hindu woman in an Islamic-recognized marriage, her conversion is not merely socially preferred – it is theologically required. This creates a structural dynamic entirely independent of any conspiracy: Muslim men who genuinely fall in love with Hindu women face religious pressure to secure their partner’s conversion, and extended Muslim families have communal incentives to encourage it. The honest response to Hindu concerns would be to acknowledge this asymmetry and address it – either by urging use of the Special Marriage Act, which requires no conversion at all, or by encouraging progressive scholarship that permits Muslim men to marry Hindus without conversion. Instead, the AIMPLB has responded with reflexive denial and no acknowledgment of the theological problem.
The distinctions that need to be drawn are between three genuinely different phenomena. The first is consensual interfaith love marriages – fully mutual, full-information, fully adult – which are constitutionally protected and which anti-conversion laws unjustly criminalize. The second is individual deceptive relationships involving concealment of identity, false Hindu names, and false promises of marriage – real, documented, criminally prosecutable under existing fraud statutes, and emphatically not Hindutva inventions. The third is the claim of an institutional Muslim plan to demographically conquer India through systematically arranged seductions – which has no evidentiary support in any court, investigation, or credible scholarly source. Muslim organizations condemn none of the second and dismiss all of it as the third. The silence where honest condemnation of individual deception ought to be is itself telling.
The Halal Economy
The halal controversy is another arena where genuine Hindu and Sikh economic concerns have been reflexively dismissed as bigotry rather than engaged with honestly.
Halal is not merely a dietary preference – it is a certification system with structural economic consequences. Under halal meat certification requirements, only Muslims may slaughter the animals, since the theological basis of the certification requires the slaughterer to invoke the name of Allah at the moment of killing. The practical consequence is that Hindu butchers – many belonging to the Khatik community, a historically marginalized Dalit and backward-caste group whose traditional occupation has been meat-processing – are structurally excluded from certified halal slaughter facilities regardless of the quality of their work. A Khatik butcher’s craft and expertise are simply irrelevant; the certification requires Muslim identity of the slaughterer.
Halal certification in India, introduced in 1974 initially for meat exports, has expanded dramatically to cover processed foods, cosmetics, pharmaceuticals, hospital services, and more. India’s meat export requirements initially drove the institutionalization of halal in supply chains, creating path dependencies: large abattoirs built for export normalized halal as the default, and the entire supply chain followed. The result is that halal meat is now served in most five-star hotels, railway pantries, military canteens, and roadside restaurants – not because Muslim preference dominates those settings, but because suppliers preemptively halal-certify to avoid commercial friction.
Sikhism explicitly prohibits halal meat, which Sikhs call kuttha, and its consumption is forbidden by the Sikh Rehat Maryada. In most of India outside Punjab and Chandigarh, the de facto dominance of halal in the meat supply chain means Sikhs seeking Jhatka meat must actively search for it. This is a genuine infringement on Sikh religious practice, not a manufactured grievance. The absence of any equivalent regulatory recognition or institutional support for Jhatka or Satvik standards represents a real asymmetry – halal has been embedded in government export bodies and institutional supply chains while Hindu and Jain dietary standards have no comparable official footing. The government’s 2020 removal of mandatory halal from APEDA’s meat export manual was a correction of this imbalance, not an act of anti-Muslim discrimination.
The “economic jihad” framing – the claim that halal certification is a deliberate strategy to fund terrorism or systematically destroy Hindu businesses – significantly overstates the case. Most Muslim consumers simply want religiously compliant food, which is a legitimate religious right. The certifying bodies collecting fees are doing so lawfully. The problem is not intentional economic warfare; it is the absence of a pluralistic regulatory framework that gives equal institutional space to different communities’ dietary requirements. But the real structural displacement of Khatik butchers and the genuine Sikh religious infringement deserve honest engagement. Muslim political organizations have offered none – treating any question about halal expansion as Islamophobia rather than as the legitimate concern about institutional pluralism that it is.
Population, Land, and the Broader Ecosystem of Hindu Concerns
The “population jihad” claim – that Muslims are deliberately having more children to eventually outnumber Hindus – is the clearest example of a real underlying phenomenon being inflated into a conspiracy theory, with that inflation then used to discredit the underlying phenomenon entirely.
The demographic differential is real. Muslim TFR in 2019–21 was 2.36 versus Hindu TFR of 1.94, and the Muslim share of India’s population rose from approximately 9.9% in 1951 to 14.2% by 2011. But the fertility gap has narrowed dramatically and continuously – from 1.1 children per woman in 1992 to 0.42 in 2019–21, a 62% reduction. Muslim fertility has been declining faster than Hindu fertility in percentage terms. Demographic projections place Muslim population share stabilizing at approximately 18–19% by mid-century, well short of a majority. The primary drivers are not religious ideology but socioeconomic factors – female literacy, income, and urbanization – as evidenced by the fact that Muslim women in Kerala have fewer children than Hindu women in Bihar. The claim that Muslim men are consciously framing childbearing as a demographic conquest strategy has no serious evidentiary support. The appropriate response would be to engage these facts honestly, acknowledge the differential while explaining its socioeconomic roots, and actively support female education and family planning within Muslim communities. Instead, any mention of differential fertility is treated as Islamophobia.
The land jihad narrative – focused primarily on Waqf board governance and demographic concentration in certain districts – similarly mixes real problems with conspiratorial overstatement. Waqf boards managing billions of rupees in property have been characterized even by Muslim reformers as opaque, mismanaged, and captured by Ashraf elites. The Waqf Act’s historical self-declaration provisions created genuine legal ambiguities that resulted in documented disputes with non-Muslim landowners. The 2025 Waqf Amendment’s push for transparency, women’s inclusion on boards, and external audit mechanisms addressed real governance failures that Muslim organizations should have sought to remedy themselves. The broader claim of a systematic Muslim strategy to seize Hindu land through Waqf declarations is not established. Similarly, Hindu concerns about Bangladeshi Muslim migration to Assam have a legitimate basis in real documented migration patterns – a genuine administrative challenge – while the “land jihad” framing that treats all Muslim demographic presence as deliberate threat conflates illegal immigration with the constitutionally protected internal movement of Indian Muslim citizens.
Looking across the full ecosystem of Hindu concerns – love jihad, economic jihad, land jihad, population jihad – a consistent pattern emerges. Some concerns rest on solid factual ground and deserve serious engagement: the identity deception pattern in certain interfaith relationships; the structural exclusion of Khatik butchers from halal certification; the Sikh religious infringement; the Muslim fertility differential; Waqf governance failures. Others have partial factual grounding that has been inflated into conspiratorial frameworks: demographic concentration in certain districts; halal scope expansion into non-food products. Others function primarily as political mobilization tools with little factual basis: organized institutional love jihad; deliberate population conquest planning; systematic Muslim land seizure. The appropriate response to this spectrum is differentiated – taking seriously what has factual grounding, debunking what does not, and refusing the conflation that treats all such concerns as equivalent Islamophobia. Muslim political organizations have done none of this. The blanket dismissal of every Hindu concern has left legitimate grievances festering and handed the entire discourse to Hindutva political entrepreneurs, foreclosing the honest community self-examination that might actually address the underlying real problems.
The Spectrum of Hindutva – A Distinction That Must Be Made
With this fuller picture of bidirectional violence, terrorism, love jihad, and the broader ecosystem of Hindu concerns in view, the critical question that Muslim political organizations consistently refuse to engage is: is all Hindutva equivalent?
The honest answer is no, and the refusal to make this distinction is itself a serious political failure.
The spectrum runs from syncretic cultural nationalism – Vivekananda’s vision of a Hinduism that encompasses all of India’s religious traditions, Mohan Bhagwat’s repeated assertion that Hindus and Muslims share common ancestors and common civilizational roots – through constitutional Hindu assertiveness and majoritarian political assertion to communal aggression and hard supremacism. These are genuinely different things. The Bajrang Dal activist who attacks a Muslim boy for talking to a Hindu girl is not the same as the RSS chief visiting a mosque and a madrasa, as Bhagwat did in 2022. The love jihad law that criminalizes interfaith marriage between consenting adults is not the same as teaching Hindu history and culture in schools. The politician who describes Muslims as infiltrators is not the same as one who says India is a civilization rooted in Hindu thought in which Muslims have been a formative presence for a thousand years.
Muslim organizations in India treat all of these as equivalent. The standard response to any Hindu cultural assertion – including perfectly reasonable ones like teaching Sanskrit in schools, naming roads after Hindu historical figures, or celebrating Indian civilizational continuity – is to invoke Islamophobia, to deploy the vocabulary of minority persecution, to warn of communal conflict.
Some of this sensitivity is understandable. The post-2014 spike in vigilante attacks on Muslims, the inflammatory rhetoric from certain BJP politicians, and years of genuine discrimination in employment and housing have created a legitimate hair-trigger. When co-religionists are being lynched for carrying beef, it is psychologically difficult to maintain fine distinctions between the Hindu cultural pride that produced Vivekananda and the Hindu communalism that produces lynch mobs.
Some of it is cynical: the clerical establishment and Muslim politicians have strong incentives to maintain a siege mentality within the community. Fear of the Hindu other has been the most reliable mechanism for maintaining Muslim political cohesion – and for ensuring that ordinary Muslims do not question the clerical establishment’s authority or the political leadership’s record.
And some of it is a failure of political imagination – the inability to conceive of a framework in which India can be acknowledged as a civilization rooted in Hindu thought and culture, and fully equal in its secular citizenship for all religious communities including Muslims. These two things are not incompatible, but the dominant framework in Muslim political thought treats them as mutually exclusive.
The intellectually honest position would be: India is a civilization in which Hindu traditions constitute the deep cultural substrate, and in which Muslims have been a formative presence for a thousand years, and in which the Constitution guarantees equal citizenship regardless of religion. A celebration of Hindu culture is not a threat to Muslim citizenship. The demand for a Uniform Civil Code is not an attack on Muslim identity but an extension of the equal dignity the Constitution already guarantees to every other Indian citizen. The RSS saying that Hindus and Muslims share ancestors is an invitation – even if it comes with political baggage – to shared belonging rather than a denial of Muslim religious identity.
Muslim political organizations could engage these positions critically, selectively, and honestly. They could distinguish the RSS chief visiting a mosque from the Bajrang Dal burning one. They could say: yes, India’s Hindu cultural roots are real and we are part of that civilization, and here is precisely where we draw the line between cultural celebration and majoritarian discrimination. Instead, the dominant response has been to reject all of it wholesale – and in doing so, to leave the field of legitimate Hindu expression to those who hold the most aggressive versions of it.
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Part VI: The Pakistan Mirror
To understand the full implications of the inward turn in Muslim politics, it is essential to look at what happened when that turn achieved its logical conclusion – the creation of Pakistan.
Pakistan’s founding ideology – that Muslims constitute a separate nation requiring a separate state – has produced one of the most religiously intolerant polities in the modern world. The demographic trajectory is stark, but requires precise telling.
The often-cited figure that Pakistan went from 23% non-Muslim in 1947 to about 3% today requires an important correction. The 23% figure referred to the combined population of undivided Pakistan – both West Pakistan and East Pakistan. In West Pakistan alone, Hindus and Sikhs constituted approximately 14.6–20% of the population in 1941, concentrated heavily in Punjab’s cities and Sindh. After partition’s mass migration, this dropped to just 1.6% in West Pakistan by the 1951 census – primarily because virtually the entire Hindu and Sikh population of Punjab fled to India in the catastrophic population exchange of 1947, in which Muslim violence against Hindus and Sikhs was part of the initiation of the killing cycle, as the historical record establishes.
East Pakistan (Bangladesh), by contrast, had a 22% Hindu population in 1951, which declined to under 8% today through a separate and equally grim process of persecution and flight over seven decades.
The most significant single event of anti-Hindu violence in the entire subcontinent’s post-independence history occurred in 1971, when the Pakistani army launched Operation Searchlight against the Bengali population of East Pakistan. Hindus were disproportionately targeted – identified by their sacred threads, their temples, and their perceived pro-India sympathies – and constitute an estimated 80% of the civilian deaths in a campaign that killed between 300,000 and 3 million people overall. Ten million refugees fled to India, the overwhelming majority of them Hindu. This was the subcontinent’s second genocide after partition, carried out by the Pakistani state against its own citizens.
In today’s Pakistan, the Hindu population has remained at approximately 2% – stable in percentage terms, but subject to ongoing systematic persecution: blasphemy law weaponization, forced conversions of Hindu girls estimated at 1,000 per year by NGOs, temple destruction, and legal discrimination. The trajectory is one of gradual erosion rather than catastrophic collapse.
Pakistan’s Islamization followed a predictable internal logic: once a state’s legitimacy rests on Islamic identity, the question “how Islamic are you?” becomes an instrument of political competition. Every government, from Bhutto to Zia to Musharraf to Nawaz Sharif, tried to prove its Islamic credentials by making concessions to the religious right – and each concession raised the bar for the next. Zia ul-Haq institutionalized sharia in criminal law, introduced mandatory Islamic studies that systematically promoted hatred of Hindus, and created the blasphemy law apparatus that has since killed or imprisoned hundreds of people, mostly religious minorities. Pakistani school textbooks have been found by multiple scholarly analyses to promote hatred of Hindus, glorify Islamic conquest as liberation, and frame India as an existential enemy of Islam – not as occasional unfortunate passages but as structural and pervasive content.
The treatment of Ahmadis is perhaps the most revealing case. In 1974, Bhutto’s government declared Ahmadis non-Muslims by constitutional amendment. In 1984, Zia made it a criminal offense for Ahmadis to call themselves Muslims, pray in mosques, or use any Islamic greeting. Ahmadis are today among the most severely persecuted communities in Pakistan – and they are Muslims, or consider themselves to be. The logic of building identity on religious separatism does not stop at the border between Muslims and non-Muslims. Once the principle is established that religious purity is the criterion for full citizenship, the question becomes not Muslim or non-Muslim but pure Muslim or impure Muslim. Pakistan has been consuming itself by this logic for seventy-five years.
Bangladesh’s trajectory, though less extreme, follows a similar pattern. Born out of genuinely inclusive Bengali secular nationalism that explicitly rejected Pakistani Islamic nationalism, Bangladesh has seen its Hindu population decline from 28% in 1940 to under 8% today. Every major political transition has been accompanied by anti-Hindu violence. The fall of Sheikh Hasina in 2024 triggered more than 2,000 documented attacks on Hindus and their properties. Hindu police officers, teachers, and civil servants were systematically forced to resign. Jamaat-e-Islami – whose leaders were convicted of war crimes against Hindus in 1971 – emerged from the 2024 elections as the second largest political force. The revolution that ended Hasina’s authoritarianism has been partially captured by the forces of 1971.
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Part VII: The Pattern, Stated Plainly
Across three countries, across three centuries, the pattern is consistent enough to state plainly.
Muslim political movements in the subcontinent have systematically prioritized the maintenance of a separate, protected Muslim political and legal identity over genuine integration into shared citizenship. This tendency has not been universal – there have always been genuine secular integrationists, genuine composite nationalists, genuine reformers. But they have been consistently outnumbered, outmaneuvered, and in some cases physically threatened by those who treat communal distinctiveness as the non-negotiable core of Muslim political identity.
The specific manifestations differ by context. In pre-partition India: armed jihadism seeking Islamic rule, educational separatism building Muslim institutions in competition with shared ones, and eventually political separatism demanding a Muslim homeland. In post-partition India: personal law separatism preventing reform and maintaining a parallel legal system, systematic resistance to every reform proposed by the state, reflexive rejection of Hindu cultural expression as threatening. In Pakistan: the logical extreme – a state where Islamic identity became the criterion of full citizenship, with catastrophic consequences for every non-Islamic minority and eventually for heterodox Muslims too. In Bangladesh: the erosion of secular Bengali nationalism under pressure from Islamist forces, with the Hindu minority bearing the cost in an ongoing demographic catastrophe.
The victims of this pattern are not only Hindus and other non-Muslims. Muslim women have been consistently denied the equality that secular law would provide because the clerical establishment successfully frames women’s rights as an attack on Islam. Pasmanda Muslims – 85% of India’s Muslim population – have had their interests poorly represented by an Ashraf-dominated establishment more concerned with symbolic religious autonomy than economic uplift. And ordinary Indian Muslims themselves, whose political potential has been consistently captured by a leadership more interested in communal power than community welfare.
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Conclusion: The Path Not Taken
Three hundred years after Shah Waliullah wrote his first diagnosis of Muslim decline, the same basic intellectual framework persists in Muslim political thought: the problem is internal to the Muslim community; the solution is religious purification or protection of religious distinctiveness; engagement with the larger society is primarily defensive or adversarial.
The path of genuine secular integrationism – of accepting equal citizenship fully and reforming Muslim civil life accordingly – has existed at every turn. It was available in the 1880s, when Sir Syed could have built Muslim modernism toward integration rather than separation. It was available in the 1940s, when Azad’s composite nationalism offered a real alternative to Jinnah’s Two-Nation Theory. It was available in 1986, when Congress could have held its ground on Shah Bano and the AIMPLB could have accepted that Muslim women possess the same right to maintenance as every other Indian woman. It was available after the 2000s bombings, when Muslim political organizations could have led a serious community-level reckoning with radicalization rather than defaulting to defensive denial. It was available in 2019, when Muslim organizations could have supported the triple talaq ban while demanding it not be weaponized politically.
At each of these junctures, the path of communal separatism and clerical authority was chosen over the path of shared citizenship and internal reform.
This is not a counsel of despair. The reformist voices exist and matter – Hamid Dalwai in the 1970s, Asghar Ali Engineer for decades, the Bharatiya Muslim Mahila Andolan today, the Pasmanda movement, and individual politicians like Arif Mohammad Khan who chose principle over career. The majority of ordinary Indian Muslims, survey after survey shows, care primarily about employment, prices, and safety – not about the theological purity of their personal law.
But between these ordinary Muslims and the politics that claims to represent them stands an institutional structure – the AIMPLB, the major Muslim parties, the Deobandi and Barelvi clerical networks – that has consistently chosen the politics of identity preservation over the politics of equal citizenship.
Until that changes, Muslim politics in the Indian subcontinent will continue its long, costly, inward turn – and the possibility of genuine shared citizenship, in which being a Muslim and being an Indian citizen are fully and uncomplicatedly compatible, will remain deferred.
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This essay traces three centuries of political and intellectual history across the Indian subcontinent. It attempts to hold two truths simultaneously: that Hindu-Muslim communal violence has always been bidirectional and cannot be reduced to a story of Hindu aggression and Muslim victimhood; and that Muslim political institutions have consistently chosen communal separatism over genuine shared citizenship, in ways that have harmed their own communities most of all. Honest historical analysis – however uncomfortable for any community – is the only foundation on which genuine political reform can be built.
Postscript: Someone on Twitter said this is just what Orthodox Islam requires of its votaries and I replied: This is the standard explanation (and it is true that orthodox Islam has these political demands built into it) but the other side of it is that many generations lived with half baked versions that mixed other traditions into it and thought it normal.. and countless millions live normalish lives by picking out some aspects and ignoring others.. Humans are adaptable. The commonly accepted full “orthodox” versions are all unworkable fever dreamz of central Asian and Persian converts that were never actually implemented by their own societies and which fail (analogous to Marxist orthodoxy) whenever intellectuals get into power and try to make it work. So that dream will fail, people will have to adjust..

Nice article.
1) The role of Saudi backed wahabbi influence, both due to the liberal funding of mosques , madrasas and also exposure to that culture real time, because of opportunities in the Arabian peninsula needs to be acknowledged. Many normal ordinary Muslims on returning back home act like Arabs.
2) rise of parties like Aimim, sdpi, which start with assertion of Muslim rights, are becoming an end in itself leading to further segregation from the main stream.
3) Rather than pointing to the masses, the ashraff could have done it, but….
Modi is the Ataturk for Indian Muslims.
Triple Talaq gone. UCC coming soon.
I disagree, parties like Jaamat e Islami and others that came out of the thought currents in the article are going from strength to strength even parties like AIMIM or SDPI that also represent the revivalist thought process are strengthening.
Yeah BB is completely off the mark. Muslim identity has consolidated under Modi to the point where despite their relative decline in political power, Muslims exercise significant power and perhaps in some ways more so than before 2014.
Identity might consolidate but the law will not make concessions for their identity is my point.
If they truly wish to reach the mainstream/elite circles they will have to adopt a secular posture, else get relegated to being a permanent underclass (which is what they fought against as referenced in the original post).
But that is the problem is the Elite circles are fairly rarefied; how many Dalits are there in Bollywood.
Even when Bollywood wants to portray a Dalit it takes Jhanvi Kapoor or a Marathi Brahmin (in the Wedding Planning show)..
for that matter how many non-panjabi actors get top billing? Bollywood which has been dominated by Panjabis (from both sides of the border). And mind you Bollywood was dominated by Progressive Writers and Actors. Only goes to show how “wokeism” was used as a shield to protect elite networks. OTOH GOI has ensure Dalit representation in Gov jobs and elected representatives.
Literally wrote the same thing a minute after you. Couldn’t agree more.
excellent points
Dalit representation is gradually improving and will gather steam but Bollywood is perhaps the worst parameter to gauge this with. For the longest time, it has been dominated by Punjabis of N-W British India far out of proportion to their numbers in India. Not very different from how Kashmiri Pundits were elite power holders in civil services till about the 1980s. I like to think these are historical accidents due to the convergence of some very specific factors that eventually noramlize. For e.g., Bollywood is already far more representative than it has ever been and elite power circles in India have higher proportion of backward castes than at any other time in history.
The only ‘losers’ are Muslims and Dr. Omar has diagnosed the reasons for that already. This is not to say I wholly agree with BB but just trying to bring more nuance to this conversation.
interesting
Thing is Bollywood is so “glossy” even the Dalits who make it there don’t talk about their identity and become “Bollywoodias”.
Jhanvi’s boyfriend Shikhar and his brother Veer (an actor) are part of a famous Dalit family (Sushilkumar Shinde).
Vikrant Massey (or Masih) is a Christian Punjabi Dalit. Yousuf Youhana is a famous Pakistani one. Lahore does have lots of Christian Dalits (converts from the chuhra caste).
It is Tamil cinema where Dalits are very prominent with their Dalit identity and make movies regarding it (will expound later on a post regarding South Indian cinema).
Vikranth has a christian mother but he identifies as a hindu to my knowledge.
Vikrant Massey has a Christian father, Sikh mother, Hindu wife and Muslim brother (who converted at 17). Poster child for Indian secularism?
PC has a Christian mother but seems to be raising her daughter in a fairly Hindu manner.
We are an InterFaith environment but we’d hazard that we are very much Hindu-oriented as well.a
@XTM – bunch of my comments seem to have gone in to spam again.
Have they?
Seem to be up now. Thank you
Some more points :
1) hamid dalvai the maratha Muslim leader had opened that hindutva was a reaction to Muslim assertion.
2) one trend that has been seen in karnataka is that politicians addressing Muslims speak in Urdu. Although karnataka Muslims speak Urdu at home, kanaada is missing in the public discourses.
3) efforts to have Kannada taught in madrasas have failed.
4) Faisal writing in facebook on tcs issue, says that as of now 30% support BJP, and by the actions of Muslims if this becomes 35% , Muslims will be permanently out of the power structure.
It’s a bit amusing since isn’t the Hindu movement particularly strong in Karnataka; Bangalore etc.
Muslims have done a better job in Urdufying their Southern kin than North Indians have to to the South or Pakistanis to Bangladesh?
North karnataka has more Muslim population and some parts were under Muslim rule longer (bahamanis and nizam) hence has more Urdu /dakhani.
South karnataka has some years of Muslim rule, however tipu forced Muslims to speak in urdu/dakhani, and hence it survives. Till recently the relationship between hindus and Muslims was OK and hence hindus also picked up some lingo.
The official Kannada has many Persian words.
There was no much Urdu in the coast earlier, but with the gulf influence it also has seen Urdu.
It is more that Muslims think of Urdu as their language vs regional languages that they claim only tactically to fan the flames of regionalism to combat Hindu consolidation. Add to this the fact that Dakhni Hindi/Urdu has been the lingua franca of several Muslim groups in S. India and it starts to make sense why.
Karnataka is the only South Indian state where BJP has had a government and Bangalore is a BJP bastion.
Where is the loss of inheritance of the Hindus such as somanath, Delhi, Kashi, vijayanagar etc recorded?
In fact romila thaper wrote a book denouncing the trauma due to loss of somanath as manufactured by British to divide Hindus and Muslims.
Hindus did not turn inwards, they took British education and threw British out.
What made them not turn inwards?
Recent loses like Lahore, dhaka are now recorded.
One observation:
Every other day a “love jihad” case props up, either in the internet or local language TV.
The girls are college going or working and invariably the after wedding photo shows her wearing a hijab.
The photos of other professional Muslim women also show almost all of them in hijab.
Looks like this is the new normal.
Thank God, the obnoxious nikab was greatly reduced.
Burkha is either for extremely orthodox or old women.
There was a time when upper class ‘official ‘ families hesitated to give their daughters to burkha families.
On the other hand, the educated Muslim youth wears the skull cap mostly for Namaz. Only the very orthodox wear it always